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Is DP being UR (part 2)

78 replies

Ninteeneightyone · 17/05/2019 12:26

I posted last week asking if DP was being unreasonable by refusing to do night feeds for our 5 week old baby. The whole thing ended with him moving back to his mums. We are still separated.

I’m looking for some advice on the following:

I think I mentioned on the other thread that he was refusing to take DS, so I could attend an MRI scan, as he had a meeting in work. Well on the Monday, he text me saying he would pick DS up at 11:30am so I could go to the scan. He did. All fine, got my scan then got DS back. On the Tuesday he was supposed to take DS again for a few hours. Again he refused. I stupidly text him in anger saying if he didn’t get DS as arranged I would bring DS to his mums door (he’s still living with her) so if he wasn’t there, he had better give his mum a heads up that I was coming. His mum lives 2 minutes away from me so I said I was just going to take the baby round there.

Well, after I said this all he’ll broke loose. He accused me of saying I was going to abandon our son at his mums door, that I was an unfit parent and that he was going to contact social services as I must be suffering from PND.

That night he sent me countless emails calling me:

A cunt
A crackpot
A muppet
Pathetic
A complete worthless cunt
A sad desperate troll
A lunatic
That I don’t deserve any of my kids
An ugly person
A mentally unstable lunatic who should have been committed
A sick fucking bastard.

He then said he wouldn’t be attending our sons birth registration on the Wednesday but he had completed a statutory declaration so he could have his name on the birth certificate, and he would post it through my door. He said I was to name our son XXX and anything other than this, his declaration would be nil and void. I advised I would not be naming our son what he demanded as he had included 2 middle names of people whom I don’t know and have never met these people in my life. I said I would name our son...first name...my surname...his surname, so if he wanted his name on the birth certificate, he would have to either be there at the registration or fill in another declaration. He refused this and said if I didn’t name DS EXACTLY as he said, THE CHILD would have to be registered fatherless and if he was registered fatherless, he would have no involvement in THE CHILDS life, why should he. He said he would get on with his life just fine and chalk meeting me and having DS down as being misfortune that he had even meant me. It ended with him taking my WhatsApp profile picture, photoshopping a horses head on to it and sending me it asking if he could put it as his profile picture in place of the one he already had of DS.

When I registered DS, I emailed him telling him that I wasn’t able to add his name to the birth certificate but it could be added at a later date - if he wanted to add his name he would have to do XYZ... he emailed back saying he had no interest of his name going on the birth certificate because I hadn’t given DS the names he wanted me to.

Yesterday I went to the doctors to have a mole on my back checked and was informed that his mother had called the doctors surgery claiming to be my mother in law and said she was concerned for me as I was very upset and distressed and she thinks I might have PND. I obviously informed the doctor of what had been going on and the doctor could see for himself that I am not depressed and he’s noted that the call was malicious and I should be contacted straight away with if any more calls like this are received by them.

Now here’s my issue - all my family and friends are telling me to contact the police to report the name calling, what he did with my picture and the malicious phone call as it’s mental abuse. Is it? Would the police entertain me? I just don’t want to waste police time. They’re also telling me not to let him near DS as he’s clearly mentally unstable.

He has emailed me today asking if he can have DS over the weekend - all after him saying he wanted nothing to do with DS and has no interest of his name being included in the birth certificate. He hasn’t seen DS at all since Monday. I don’t know whether to allow contact. I don’t think he would stick to any agreement. I’m also scared that he would refuse to return DS. DS is also too young to stay away from me for a full weekend - he’s only 6 weeks old! Should I draw up an agreement to allow contact and if he fails to stick to it, then we can have something put in place legally? Or do I withdraw contact until a legal agreement is drawn up?

OP posts:
Nanny0gg · 17/05/2019 14:12

And if he ever gets the chance to have time with DC make sure it's in a contact centre.

Hanab · 17/05/2019 14:13

Keep every message as evidence and for him to now want your DC over the weekend has red flags popping up in my mind. He is vindictive .. I won’t be surprised if he and his mum have concocted a plan not to return DC to you and then claiming you’re not a stable person.

ChristmasFluff · 17/05/2019 14:16

Well without his name on the birth certificate, he has no legal rights over your child in the UK - he would have to prove paternity and go to court to get any. So he's shot himself in the foot there.

Keep everything. He is showing who he is, and is proving he is abusive. Report, report, report. Good luck OP, you are well rid, and your child would gain no benefit from having this piece of work in his life anyway. I wouldn't trust him to care for a houseplant, let alone a child.

Travis1 · 17/05/2019 14:26

i REALLY WOULDNT LET HIM HVE YOUR ds AT THIS POINT. pERHAPS SAY HE CAN VISIT FOR AN HOUR AND HAVE SOMEONE ELSE SUPERVISE BUT NOT ON YOUR OWN

Jux · 17/05/2019 14:39

Definitely police.
Definitely don't give ex your ds - far too young to be separated from you.

See a sol and get advice.

Contact CMS and make sure you get at least some money from the twat.

DishingOutDone · 17/05/2019 16:49

I would be concerned that his mother would encourage him to keep the child and not give him back claiming you are mentally unstable.

Do some of you remember when that did actually happen to a poster? Poor woman waited something like a month to get her baby back she had to take him to court, all the while his mother was behind it Sad

Handsoffmysweets · 17/05/2019 16:54

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Merryoldgoat · 17/05/2019 17:05

It’s a big no from me. Let him see him at your home if at all. Definitely NOT to take him away.

Lucky you realised early and he’s not on the birth certificate.

Ninteeneightyone · 17/05/2019 18:08

He’s started giving me abuse again because I said he’s not to have the baby. He called me the most vindictive, twisted, spiteful, manipulative person who has ever lived and said I’m using the baby to emotionally bully him. I’m not allowing contact because I’m genuinely concerned for my sons safety. I’m willing to give up my whole life to look after my kids full time so I don’t understand how he could even think that

OP posts:
MidsomerBurgers · 17/05/2019 18:13

Please contact the police immediately.

Do not let him take the baby even for just a short visit until you have legal advice.

Summerorjustmaybe · 17/05/2019 18:19

Do not allow contact. Enraged people do crazy things...

fairgame84 · 17/05/2019 18:24

I've been in a similar situation. Stop contact. Do not reply to his messages. If he wants contact then make him get a court order (chances are he will threaten to do this but not go through with it).
Do not engage with this cockwomble or his mother any further.

churchthecat · 17/05/2019 18:26

You need to call the police and get this all on record OP. Thanks

XXVaginaAndAUterus · 17/05/2019 18:42

@Ninteeneightyone he probably doesn't think that - he's using what he knows to hurt and manipulate you. Please go to the police and tell us when you've done that.

Iwantacookie · 17/05/2019 19:07

I agree with pp contact the police. They should be able to signpost you to somewhere else too.
Get onto cms you can still claim maintenance he'll just have to have a DNA test if he refuses.

NauseousMum · 17/05/2019 19:30

Contact the police tonight in case he shows up. He has anger issues and is malicious, as is his family. He can easily escalate especially with his mum feeding his ego. No way can he be trusted with an infant. I wouldn't trust him with you, an adult, either.

I'd put a key in your door locks too and bolt them when inside. Change them asap, at least one. Flowers enjoy your little boy.

ChristmasFluff · 17/05/2019 20:02

XXvagina is completely right - he doesn't believe what he's saying at all, he is deliberately saying the things he thinks will work to get you to do what he wants. Ignore what the abusive piece of shit says. He's just doing what abusive pieces of shit do - leave him to it. And keep on reporting to Police. With every message he is showing himself to be what he is - abusive. The Police and the courts will see that.

AnAC12UCOinanOCG · 17/05/2019 20:23

Well done getting away from that twat.

poglets · 17/05/2019 20:32

Be strong enough to stop all contact. You did the right thing not giving his surname and by not putting him on the certificate.

Keep all the messages. I'd block his number and refuse further contact.

Have you looked in to practical matters such as money etc?

Please don't let him have access at this moment. It is hard doing it all by yourself but your baby is safe. Reach out to family and friends and stay strong. Disconnect emotionally as much as you can and keep all your responses moderate. Take time before any response to consider what can happen next.

Good luck

jinglet · 17/05/2019 20:43

Bloody hell. What a nasty and abusive piece of sht. Report the bstard 100000% and keep evidence of every text/email/sniffle you get from him. Do not let him have access to that baby. He's projecting his true feelings into you and willl use the baby as ammunition towards you. Big hugs OP. Please look after yourself and be kind to yourself. You deserve so much better than him.

Marmablade · 17/05/2019 20:44

This is emotional abuse and the police are the right people to help make him stop. You have done nothing wrong. They will help you to keep you and your son safe. You do not deserve to put up with his behaviour for a day longer.

jinglet · 17/05/2019 20:47

Ps. That message from him forcing you to call baby xyz or else... must go some way towards proving to the CM agency that he has acknowledged he is the father. Lie low for a while and then go after the b*stard. I'm so annoyed on your behalf.

IceIceCoffee · 17/05/2019 20:48

This is eerily similar to my past situation in terms of message content. He’s hoping you start to believe you’re awful. Don’t believe it op it’s all part of the manipulation

TriciaH87 · 17/05/2019 20:56

Contact centre or nothing. His off his head. Was clearly looking for an excuse to walk out. Good on you for not following his demands. Don't forget to contact cms for child support. Does not need to be on birth certificate to claim and does not allow him access. He could demand dna but once done he has to pay. If he does end up taking you court for access he gets rights but currently by not being on it he has none. Which may be better until he shows he can step up and be a man.

Princessphoebe75 · 17/05/2019 21:07

So sorry you're going through this OP, best advice I can give is to change your mobile number and never ever give him your new number. Tell your family and friends to never give him your number.
Get a cheap PAYG phone (non smart phone, so no WhatsApp etc) and give him that number say you've had to change your number. This way you can use your proper phone and you will not have constant abusive messages from him. You only have to look at your PAYG, if you want to or to contact him if you need to.
As for everything else

  1. Ring police and log everything with them
  2. Ring CMS for maintenance
  3. Get legal advice ASAP re his contact
  4. Don't allow contact until after said legal advice. Your baby is six weeks he does not want to be separated from his mummy for a few hours, never mind a whole weekend.
  5. Don't trust his mother
I'm just confused as to why he couldn't do night feeds, but now he can look after him for a whole weekend?? Flowers