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Is DP being UR (part 2)

78 replies

Ninteeneightyone · 17/05/2019 12:26

I posted last week asking if DP was being unreasonable by refusing to do night feeds for our 5 week old baby. The whole thing ended with him moving back to his mums. We are still separated.

I’m looking for some advice on the following:

I think I mentioned on the other thread that he was refusing to take DS, so I could attend an MRI scan, as he had a meeting in work. Well on the Monday, he text me saying he would pick DS up at 11:30am so I could go to the scan. He did. All fine, got my scan then got DS back. On the Tuesday he was supposed to take DS again for a few hours. Again he refused. I stupidly text him in anger saying if he didn’t get DS as arranged I would bring DS to his mums door (he’s still living with her) so if he wasn’t there, he had better give his mum a heads up that I was coming. His mum lives 2 minutes away from me so I said I was just going to take the baby round there.

Well, after I said this all he’ll broke loose. He accused me of saying I was going to abandon our son at his mums door, that I was an unfit parent and that he was going to contact social services as I must be suffering from PND.

That night he sent me countless emails calling me:

A cunt
A crackpot
A muppet
Pathetic
A complete worthless cunt
A sad desperate troll
A lunatic
That I don’t deserve any of my kids
An ugly person
A mentally unstable lunatic who should have been committed
A sick fucking bastard.

He then said he wouldn’t be attending our sons birth registration on the Wednesday but he had completed a statutory declaration so he could have his name on the birth certificate, and he would post it through my door. He said I was to name our son XXX and anything other than this, his declaration would be nil and void. I advised I would not be naming our son what he demanded as he had included 2 middle names of people whom I don’t know and have never met these people in my life. I said I would name our son...first name...my surname...his surname, so if he wanted his name on the birth certificate, he would have to either be there at the registration or fill in another declaration. He refused this and said if I didn’t name DS EXACTLY as he said, THE CHILD would have to be registered fatherless and if he was registered fatherless, he would have no involvement in THE CHILDS life, why should he. He said he would get on with his life just fine and chalk meeting me and having DS down as being misfortune that he had even meant me. It ended with him taking my WhatsApp profile picture, photoshopping a horses head on to it and sending me it asking if he could put it as his profile picture in place of the one he already had of DS.

When I registered DS, I emailed him telling him that I wasn’t able to add his name to the birth certificate but it could be added at a later date - if he wanted to add his name he would have to do XYZ... he emailed back saying he had no interest of his name going on the birth certificate because I hadn’t given DS the names he wanted me to.

Yesterday I went to the doctors to have a mole on my back checked and was informed that his mother had called the doctors surgery claiming to be my mother in law and said she was concerned for me as I was very upset and distressed and she thinks I might have PND. I obviously informed the doctor of what had been going on and the doctor could see for himself that I am not depressed and he’s noted that the call was malicious and I should be contacted straight away with if any more calls like this are received by them.

Now here’s my issue - all my family and friends are telling me to contact the police to report the name calling, what he did with my picture and the malicious phone call as it’s mental abuse. Is it? Would the police entertain me? I just don’t want to waste police time. They’re also telling me not to let him near DS as he’s clearly mentally unstable.

He has emailed me today asking if he can have DS over the weekend - all after him saying he wanted nothing to do with DS and has no interest of his name being included in the birth certificate. He hasn’t seen DS at all since Monday. I don’t know whether to allow contact. I don’t think he would stick to any agreement. I’m also scared that he would refuse to return DS. DS is also too young to stay away from me for a full weekend - he’s only 6 weeks old! Should I draw up an agreement to allow contact and if he fails to stick to it, then we can have something put in place legally? Or do I withdraw contact until a legal agreement is drawn up?

OP posts:
Lllot5 · 17/05/2019 13:00

Good that you’ve given your son your surname and he’s not on birth certificate. Now call the police and report his harassment and tell them about his mother’s call to dr.
If he wants contact he can take you to court.

Lifeisabeach09 · 17/05/2019 13:01

Agree with PPs, log the abuse with the Police, especially as it will likely escalate. If you start accumulating evidence now, it will make a non-molestation order easier to gain if needed later on.

The best thing you could have done was not put him on the BC. You couldn't travel with your LO or get a passport without his say so! And he is the type to use it as a form of control.

Hope you didn't double-barrel you DS's last name.

Think ahead,OP, and sever ties with this man.

DishingOutDone · 17/05/2019 13:01

You need legal advice ASAP, definitely report everything to the police and don't allow contact. Courts won't order contact for such a young baby anyway.

Blondebakingmumma · 17/05/2019 13:03

Please report everything to police- including his mum calling the GP. Also deny contact, I think he sounds unstable. Start an application for him to pay child support

Blondebakingmumma · 17/05/2019 13:04

The baby is too young to be separated from you! I’d be concerned they would hand him back

cuppycakey · 17/05/2019 13:05

Definitely block this wankbadgerand his mother so they cannot contact you again.

Do you have support from your own family? Are you financially secure?

I would just contact CSA www.gov.uk/child-maintenance and let them sort out his contribution. He doesn't have to have contact with the child but he should be contributing, even if courts have to force a DNA test.

Obviously if you can afford not to bother then you may decide to just cut off even financial contribution.

I would BF as long as you can in case he/his mother suddenly decide they want overnights.

LagunaBubbles · 17/05/2019 13:05

What an absolute bastard. No way should he have access until you do it legally if you're worried about him not giving your DS back. What's with all the name calling? Was he like this before?

StormTreader · 17/05/2019 13:07

Theres no way that someone who could throw such a huge nasty toddler tantrum for so little reason should be trusted with a baby. Is he really going to be reasonable and caring if the baby is still crying after an hour? Or crying at night wanting to be fed?

NotStayingIn · 17/05/2019 13:07

I would report it to the police, they both sounds so unreasonable more shite is likely to come your way in the future. Keep all the emails but I would also make printed copies. If you do meet for any reason in the future I would be prepared and record the audio on my phone just in case. And of course remember that he might have been advised to do the same, so in all your communications with him continue to be calm and reasonable. Don’t let him push your buttons. Sorry you are going through this.

Qweenbee · 17/05/2019 13:09

Stop all contact. Your baby will be better off not having him in his life from the start, rather than having him popping in and out of his life being abusive to his mother and unreliable, manipulative and possibly abusive to himself.

Thank heavens he's not on the birth certificate. You can still claim financial support. Keep evidence/screenshots of everything in case he tries to go to court for access.

Gruzinkerbell1 · 17/05/2019 13:09

Report his harassment to the police.

Don’t allow contact until you have something legal in place. He sounds unhinged.

Quartz2208 · 17/05/2019 13:10

Yes police and no contact

Summerorjustmaybe · 17/05/2019 13:12

Report to the police.
Do not hand over your ds.
At this age he isn't missing his df is he?
Let him seek legal advice and he can go via court route to see him. He sounds unhinged.
Can see where he got that from too.
I hope he hasn't got keys?
Keeping both of you safe is vital.
You obviously don't really know him after all op. His behaviour isn't one to allow a baby around imo.

Goodenough06 · 17/05/2019 13:15

OP I'm so sorry you are going through this. How awful and scary and just exactly what you don't need after having a baby. I feel absolutely furious with this man on your behalf, what a complete knob.
I don't have any useful advice that hasn't already been given, Other than to agree with PPs that you should absolutely save all emails/ texts and messages from him and make a note of times he calls you and what exactly is said and threatened. Do contact the police so should anything more serious happen, there will already be a record and evidence of past harassment.
Also, please don't let your ex have the baby without going through some form of legal mediation. Your most important job now is to keep your baby safe, if you don't trust him to return the baby then don't do it. You already have more than enough grounds to refuse.
Lots of luck and I hope you are able to move on quickly with your little one.

DoulaDaisy · 17/05/2019 13:20

100% contact the police, go down to the station and show them everything, now.

Do not let him take your DS for the weekend. Tell him that he said he doesn't want contact and if that has changed then he needs to apply for it via the court system but that you will be looking for supervised visitation because the main reason you split was because he didn't involve himself in night feeds so you're concerned tha the will neglect the baby during contact.

Keep a record of absolutely everything.

If he has keys, get the locks changed asap.

Have you family or friends who know about the situation? Keep them inforned.

divafever99 · 17/05/2019 13:22

Yes I would inform police and stop all contact. I'm sorry I didn't see your first thread, where are you living? Are you on your own or with family? If you are alone and he has a key to your current address I would be calling a locksmith today.

Fundays12 · 17/05/2019 13:22

This man is mentally unstable so do not hand your baby over to him. I would go to the police and file a report. To be seen to be reasonable you could offer supervised visits at a contact centre as staff and the police will interfene if need be. As for his mum you don’t know what he has told her but best staying clear of her too.

XXVaginaAndAUterus · 17/05/2019 13:25

I'm so sorry for you that you're going through this!

Keep a record of all the events, calls, name calling, texts etc. He is abusive, there is no two ways about that. Yes please go too the police and women's aid, who can advise you.

Yes get child maintenance set up officially.

No don't allow him to have access without you, baby is too young and he has proven himself too irresponsible and volatile - he says he didn't want anything to do with the baby ffs!

I would, with official advice, invite him to see the baby in a controlled environment with you and another person or two (of your choosing) there. Be creating evidence that you're reasonable for a future court battle.

StreetDreams · 17/05/2019 13:31

I think the emails are an offence under the Malicious Communications Act, so yes, report to the police and include the bit about MIL calling the GP maliciously too (although that's probably not an offence, just useful background info). I would stop contact on the basis that not only has he said he wants nothing to do with DS, but also this erratic behaviour gives cause for concern about DS's safety. I wouldn't be surprised if they did something bats like refusing to hand him back to you out of 'concern' for your MH and his welfare. God knows what kind of police/SS/legal nightmare that might kickstart for you. He will need to contribute financially to his child's upbringing whether or not he's on the birth certificate. YY to keeping records and changing locks. Poor you. Flowers

CabbageHippy · 17/05/2019 13:36

so sorry for your problems, he's really not sounding a nice person :-(

GabsAlot · 17/05/2019 13:36

Under no cicrumstance should yu let him see your ds-hes abusive and crazy

Take all the messages down to the police and report him if he wants to see him let him go to court

Horsemenoftheaclopalypse · 17/05/2019 13:43

You are mad to have even considered double barrelling

I third cutting contact until you have something legal in place and have sought police advice over the emails and calls.

At the risk of being flames I would also consider just generally leaving / moving / going away and having no contact at all as you aren’t married and he isn’t on the birth cert. he sounds like an utter nightmare - imagine having to deal with that for the next 15 years or so

Graphista · 17/05/2019 14:02

At 6 weeks old he's FAR too young to be away from you for a significant period of time - how is he fed?

Then add in the absolutely SHOCKING harassment from him and his mother, in your position I'd be saying "hell no!"

Record EVERYTHING and I agree on getting legal advice ASAP.

RavenLG · 17/05/2019 14:02

I agree with others who have said to see legal advice (police for harassment / abuse). There is a strong chance they could take him for the day and not return him. Please be careful with this one OP!

HiJenny35 · 17/05/2019 14:06

I would be concerned that his mother would encourage him to keep the child and not give him back claiming you are mentally unstable.
You need to block all numbers. Stop all contact. Go to the police. Save all emails and text messages to show the police.
He will inevitably turn up at yours/call the police/SS on you. It's going to look better if you get in first.
Send on last text saying that "Things are clearly unmanageable between us and I am not willing to accept the abuse I am getting from you.
I am willing to attend mediation to organise a visitation structure in place if you wish to stay in contact. Please only contact me by the following email address in future:
"
Do not respond to any message you get after that, no matter how vile! By responding you are letting him know he is getting to you.
Send it literally as you are leaving for the police station so that if he goes to yours you are not in and so that if he tries to go to the police first to make you look bad you've already been. Good luck and don't let him take baby!

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