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James Charles

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Moominfan · 12/05/2019 12:30

Anyone following the drama? Seen comments on twitter but not sat through bye sister yet

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Moominfan · 13/05/2019 18:00

Your missing out hopeygoflighty it's basically Shakespeare

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ElspethFlashman · 13/05/2019 18:05

There is definitely an algorithm for length. Definitely. Not sure how long though.

DeRigueurMortis · 13/05/2019 18:13

The answer is always 42.

Chasingdandelions · 14/05/2019 14:36

I unfollowed him after he disrespected marlena from makeup geek. To much to young. His attitude is really bratty. For tati to speak out about it she must be really pissed as she keeps out of the drama.
He needed this to humble him, saying that I don't agree with people posting fake stories about him on twitter!
I still dislike jeffree star too, I don't understand how people forgive his racism but not mannys social climbing?
You only need 10 minutes to get money from a video too.

Ells0204 · 14/05/2019 15:35

The only YouTuber I’ve ever been interested in is Tati. Maybe because she’s 37 (I’m 26) and stays professional and generally until now has stayed out of drama. She doesn’t do collaborations in order to keep her views and channel as genuine as possible.

I can’t stand all these “spill the tea bitch” YouTubers these days swearing at everyone one day then hyperventilating on camera because of their anxiety the next day. Tati is classy and keeps it real.

I think it’s been missed out here but when JC advertised the other supplement who is a rival of Tati’s, he actually tried to say it was to help him sleep because of his anxiety. The pill is called Sugar Bear HAIR and is meant to be a beauty supplement like Tati’s Halo brand. She thought that it was ironic he had declined to promote Halo as it gave the wrong impression to his young followers...yet promoted Sugar Bear Hair for ANXIETY of all things and didn’t even mention it was for hair skin and nails etc.

staydazzling · 14/05/2019 17:01

this is controversial but I've been watching ppl like xsparkage, marlena for years and years I loved Lauren like and pursebuzz back in the day, it was so wholesome until the influx of men, 😩 dons hard hat But my guilty pleasure is Michael Finch Grin

Moominfan · 14/05/2019 17:04

Emily Noel anyone? Her soothing voice, could listen to her all day. Nyma tang gotta be drama free? Love her her funny takes on things

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Rach182 · 19/05/2019 07:55

@Ells0204 and others, I hate to do this but I feel it's only responsible to revive this thread after James Charles most recent video explaining the situation:

My takeaway is that Tati is a manipulative liar who is old enough to know better, James is young and annoying but at least seems truthful (the only one who has shown any proof in all this ridiculous drama), and Jeffrey Star is still a racist prick yet somehow still is a massive YouTuber.

James' video shows:

  • James promoted Tati's product on multiple occasions on his platform

  • the "straight" waiter James apparently manipulated into thinking he was gay, was actually bi and was the one that reached out to James to meet up

  • Tati knew all about the waiter situation and even messaged James saying " you're supposed to hook up with the waiter not marry them" Hmm

  • James didn't talk to gossip channels (this is the justification tati gives for making a public video about their argument), except to say that that he wouldn't speak publicly to any one until he has spoken to Tati privately.

  • a lot of people made fake texts from James or gave false info, many of whom later apologised to James and/or removed their posts. One even said he made up James' alleged sexual assault of them in a toilet as a social experiment.

  • the whole "I'm a celebrity/ I'm so famous" thing is an inside joke that even Tati participates in - James shows texts/ screenshots...And was never meant seriously. I don't fully get this bit but then again I'm not 12, and neither is Tati so she should behave her age.

For me this whole episode goes to show how dangerous trial by social media is, and that newer forms of media are just as manipulative and no more honest than older forms of media. And all this was about the stupid gummy bear vitamins. So childish and I'm ashamed of myself for keeping up with this drama.

Sagradafamiliar · 19/05/2019 08:37

I agree with you Rach.

Cactus67 · 19/05/2019 09:22

It’s an eye opener for sure.
However I still don’t believe James is an appropriate role model for his young market. Allowing yourself to been seen during public sexual encounters is rank.

Moominfan · 19/05/2019 09:43

Ooh plot twist

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Ells0204 · 19/05/2019 11:22

@Rach182 OOFFT. This is going to kick off for sure. I did also watch the video a couple of days ago about the supposedly straight waiter who uploaded his own video and he did say he was bi-curious and did message James first. The bit about Zara Larsson was also interesting...

estevann · 19/05/2019 12:50

Jefree star has a new video coming up. Apparently he is going to expose him to everyone. He has evidence and he thinks he should be locked up

Ells0204 · 19/05/2019 13:04

@estevann don’t particularly like Jeffree Star but I am quite interested in this.

estevann · 19/05/2019 13:07

Yeah same. I feel sorry for James but I haven't saw what jefree has to say yet

VampireSlayer19 · 19/05/2019 13:13

I do feel partly sorry for him he is 19 years old, had sudden fame and acted stupidly but hasn’t broken any laws and from what I gather never forced any contact or sexual interaction with straight or gay men.

I watched the waiters video and it was him that initiated first contact and he got jealous when found out James was seeing someone else. Most 19 year olds not in a serious relationship date several people, in America it’s encouraged.

This all stemmed from him wearing someone else’s make up on a cat walk and his ‘mentor’ getting upset.

A young lads life and character is getting destroyed and people wonder why suicide rates are going up?!?

VampireSlayer19 · 19/05/2019 13:23

Sorry promoting vitamins not make up!

Tati should have handled it behind closed doors.

PinguDance · 19/05/2019 13:30

This is why I stopped watching Tati cos I didn’t buy her ‘I don’t do drama’ bit- she bloody does!

DeRigueurMortis · 19/05/2019 14:12

Ponders why JS is getting involved.....

Yoursilentface · 19/05/2019 14:25

Watched half the JC vid linked.

He seems genuine. I wouldn't be surprised if they all made it up together for veiws. Either way they are all as bad as each other.

Shane Dawson will not doubt make a load making a documentary of all this as well.

Branleuse · 19/05/2019 16:19

I actually feel a bit sorry for James Charles.
He has been chewed up and spat out by the industry. It happens to pretty much ALL of them. All celebrities, especially young ones

PepsiLola · 20/05/2019 09:01

Jeffrey Starr has made a video called we need to talk.

I guess it's in response to James Charles video.

I'm in work so can't watch it yet!

Branleuse · 20/05/2019 09:03

god arent they all so fucking dramatic.

claudia12345 · 20/05/2019 09:14

The Jeffree star video is ridiculous. He's been talking about tea and receipts this whole time and now he's made a video basically acting like he's above the petty drama and not even attempting to apologise to James Charles. I actually think jefree is a sociopath and has wound everyone up for drama. He's a horrible manipulative and vindictive drama queen.

ziggiestardust · 20/05/2019 09:24

I wouldn’t waste your time on Jeffree’s video! 12 minutes of basically “bUt I wAs In A dArK pLaCe!” Ugh.

Tati annoyed me too; the length of that video was ridiculous and she has dined out on it for far too long. Everyone insinuating ‘we have receipts!’ buuut you don’t. I’m the first to say I’m not a James Charles fan; no real reason, he just always passed me by. But I feel like his relationship with Tati was a bit strange to be honest; she says in her video that her husband kept reminding her that JC wasn’t her friend; he was a 19 year old kid. She had a low key obsession with him and enjoyed being fawned over by him and his friends, even going so far as allowing JC to call her and her husband ‘mom and dad’. When he was an idiot and did stupid stuff (because that’s what 19 year olds with a shit ton of money who surround themselves with ‘yes’ people will do!) she was all shocked. I’m not defending JC here for a second; but for Tati to be shocked to the core over a monster she’s had a hand in creating? Oh come on!

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