To think alot of men still think of women as inequal?

[Moofreemum1]

Reading the relationship boards and it's just shocking the amount of men that abuse women. Whether it be emotional/physical/financial. I just feel they still see as as unequal to them. We should be seen and not heard. They work, therefore we do everything else.
I myself was emotionally/mentally and financially abused. I know he would have gone to physical eventually. I'm 2 and a half years on and I'm so angry at the way he treated me. Usually I'm a strong person who is confident and outgoing yet he managed to chip me down. I will never let another man do that to me again.
Also another thing aside from abuse but think they link is women in the workplace. I get called bossy quite often, but if I man were to be this way it would be accepted more and men would "respect" them for taking the lead. I still feel like there is so much inequality between the sexes and it makes me so angry/sad.
AIBU to think this??

I make those decisions where I work.

You made those decisions before your worked there? That's impressive. And now you solely decide all pay for all employees. That sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.

You find it offensive that there is inequality? That's a very odd stance.

Traveler001 I appreciate that. And I am sorry your were abused. However, it doesnt follow that all men that are abused are actually abusing their female partners. The man in question doesnt actually think it's a problem. He hasnt said she stops him going, but she has. I know the couple vaguely socially as well.

putthatlampshadeonyourhead. You do not appear to have understood what I said and are certainly not articulating it very well. I said I find your comments and interpretation offensive.

You do not appear to have understood what I said and are certainly not articulating it very well. I said I find your comments and interpretation offensive.

My interpretation of what? Of the fact that women do suffer from bias at work. Wether they witness or not?

I think you dont really understand or articulate yourself well either, so its probably a pointless converstation.

Smile and the world smiles with you? That's really your response to the global issue of female subjugation. Of course being pleasant and smiling can help in oiling the wheels of social interaction and getting what you want etc but that is a different issue. I was also a senior manager in a global male-dominated company and had a stellar career but just because I wasn't directly affected, it doesn't prevent me from seeing the bigger picture of inequality.

Do listen to Women and Power by Mary Beard it really has food for thought in a non aggressive way.

Quoting the cartoon with a large table of businessmen and one woman the chair says: “thats an excellent suggestion Miss Triggs, perhaps one of the men here would like to make it” !

@fairislecable that's very true. I've had men pass off my ideas before. Id suggested it but they didn't listen. Few weeks later this guy suggests it and all the name colleagues agree! To say I was raging was an understatement

I think the problem has been in the past we were shocked and didn’t pick up on it. Perhaps now is the time to say “ yes, when I suggested that last week etc etc.

So in a non aggressive fashion we set the record straight and claim any credit that is due.

She paid her painter/handyman more per hour more than she paid the woman who looked after her dc after school. Market rates etc but she chose to go with those and didnt challenge them. She didnt see it. But she told me with all seriousness that there is no sexism in the workplace any more.

You're confusing different pay for different roles for sexism.

Gardening/handyman work is harder than childcare. My own 16 and 13 year old boys are interested in babysitting and looking into getting their first aid certification and I told them that they should look into gardening, they said much the same - too hard.

I was pretty surprised to learn that the chaps who carry rubble out from excavations in Zone 1 London are paid £10/hr. Far less than the going rate for childcare. Square that with sexism if you can.

I see this far more as a general devaluation of labour across the board, men and women alike - it's a class issue. I don't like this and I'd really like to see a lot of the employment behemoths broken up so that people have more bargaining power with their labour.

Lots of people, especially women, will say to me how lucky I am that DH doesn't mind looking after the DC, how lucky I am that he does housework, how lucky I am that he's so laid back and let's me do as I please, and so on.

This does my head in. I really hope that they don't say this in front of young, impressionable girls.