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How can the local election results be interpreted as support for Brexit?

86 replies

eightoclock · 03/05/2019 21:20

Given the tories have lost 1200 seats, labour lost 60 ish and ukip lost 30 ish (all pro brexit parties) and the lib dems have gained 600 and greens 250 (both remain parties), why on earth are both TM and JC interpreting this as the public wanting brexit 'delivered?'.
Surely if there was a strong pro brexit vote ukip would gain and the remain supporting parties would lose?
I would take this result as support for a second referendum at the very least.
Am I missing something or is this just another example of the pair of them refusing to accept the obvious?

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Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 05/05/2019 21:58

Unfortunately for those people when you pop your mark in the box it counts as a vote FOR that party

Or rather it used to in the good old days

Now if you vote for a leave party you want to leave and if you vote for a remain party you also want to leave

Strange fucking times Grin

TriciaH87 · 05/05/2019 21:59

Because many like my self are pro brexit but after voting to leave and our local mps voting against what the people in our area voted for many feel they do not deserve a seat. If the brexit party was up and running in my area I would have chose them but Labour and the conservatives are putting their own agenda first when they should have took us out of the EU already but are too busy trying to find a way to keep us in.

Gth1234 · 06/05/2019 00:24

@op

look. you carry on thinking a majority want to remain. I reckon an increasing majority are incandescent that mps are trying to prevent Brexit. I wouldn't be surprised if farage's party win a landslide at the next GE.

ConfCall · 06/05/2019 12:43

I think that Farage will do very well on 23rd, unfortunately, as things stand.

BogglesGoggles · 06/05/2019 12:46

A lot of brexiteers spoilt their ballots apparently.

DippyAvocado · 06/05/2019 12:53

People didn't vote for Lib Dems/ Green/ Independent, they were voting against labour and Tory.

And you know this how? Unless you have questioned everynviter, you can't possibly know what their intentions were.

DippyAvocado · 06/05/2019 12:54

every voter

HoozTurnIsIT · 06/05/2019 13:25

And you know this how? Of course some of those votes will be genuine LD supporters but many wouldn't be voting the same way in a general election.
Local elections and by-elections are renowned for protest voting. It's a way the voter can express their displeasure with "their" party without the risk of electing the party they oppose.
It's the first election I've failed to vote in since 1976 although I have certainly done the odd bit of tactical voting. (Don't assume I'm a leave voting Tory just because of my age).

lljkk · 06/05/2019 20:13

Local elections in 2019 were protest voting about national politics. Local issues didn't matter to why people voted the way they did.

Just like voting Leave in 2016 was a protest vote about The Establishment. EU membership didn't matter to the people who protest voted to Brexit.

If all that is true, then WHY ARE WE LEAVING THE EU? Since the 2016 vote for Brexit HAD NOTHING TO DO DO WITH EU MEMBERSHIP?

Yes I'm shouting. Coz I can't make sense of above.

lljkk · 06/05/2019 20:40

ps: 1.78% of ballots were spoilt in my region's 2019 local elections.

VoteNone says that in 2015 GE, there were 97,870 spoilt ballots (out of 30.7 votes cast says electoral commission). Spoilt rate = 0.32%.

So almost 5x as many spoilt in 2019. Question: is 1.8% enough unhappy people to make a big difference in EU elections?

randomchap · 06/05/2019 20:56

Here's an idea, instead of trying to interpret the local election results, and the potential results at the EU election to see how people feel about Brexit, why don't we have a confirmatory referendum so there can be no doubt as to the will of the people in 2019?

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