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To be mad with the BBC re election reporting

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Level75 · 03/05/2019 19:44

Conservatives have lost a shit tonne of seats, so have Labour.

Lib Dems, Green and a load of pro Remain Independents have seen a massive upswing in votes.

Why, then, is the message that's coming across that the public want Brexit to happen ASAP. Surely the opposite?!

Normally I'm a big fan of the BBC but this is really winding me up.

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DippyAvocado · 03/05/2019 20:34

A PP has referred to the loss of seats by Labour and the Tories and has referred to them both as the Brexit parties. Neither Labour nor Conservative are pro Brexit.

And yet we are constantly reminded that Brexit is the will of the people because 80% of voters in the 2017 General Election voted for pro-Brexit parties. Confused (or Conservative or Labour).

It's becoming incredibly infuriating that remainer action is constantly spun as something else. Massive swing to the two openly anti-Brexit parties is supposedly either a sign to get on with Brexit (how????) or absolutely nothing to do with Brexit, only local issues. Or the result is due to low turnout. Well, shouldn't it count that the people who care enough to get off their backsides and vote are remainers? What exactly do we need to do to be listened to?

Even the seats that Labour list in their so-called Leave heartlands were with a swing to the Lib Dems and Greens so not exactly disenfranchised Labour leavers turning to Ukip.

Helmetbymidnight · 03/05/2019 20:36

well said, dippy.

Stillpinching · 03/05/2019 20:37

It's madness. But the BBC lost my respect months ago. This is just par for the course for them.

Laodamia · 03/05/2019 20:37

The BBC have had a very bad Brexit.

DippyAvocado · 03/05/2019 20:39

Sorry, my post should say ie Conservative or Labour.

mellongoose · 03/05/2019 20:40

I haven't rtft but they haven't been reporting on turnout %. My understanding is that Lib Dems have made back ground lost in 2015 following their disastrous coalition. Cons and Lab are being punished for their shambolic handling of Brexit. Many traditional voters stayed at home or spoilt their ballots (a record number I heard).

HelenaDove · 03/05/2019 20:42

It feels like a shit attempt at mass gaslighting.

badlydrawnperson · 03/05/2019 20:45

A PP has referred to the loss of seats by Labour and the Tories and has referred to them both as the Brexit parties. Neither Labour nor Conservative are pro Brexit.
Both of these parties gave a manifesto commitment in the most recent general election to enact Brexit and both parties voted to trigger article 50.

OP I agree about the BBC. There are million interpretations of this, but just like Brexit some twat is always trying to distil complex issues into a single sentence they can tweet or broadcast. I spoiled my ballot but that was in frustration over local issues, nowt to do with Brexit which our local council has no control over.

I voted leave but I don't want a wanky half leave - it's all or nothing. I don't mind if we have another referendum, and if people have changed their minds now, I will accept that - I'd rather remain than be half in half out which is the worst of all worlds.

AlunWynsKnee · 03/05/2019 20:46

The reporting is quite peculiar. They seem fixated on this being about Brexit and then running the narrative that the opposition should be taking seats mid term which is true in normal times but these are not normal times. The LibDems have done well. Is that Brexit related or is it in comparison to a drubbing in 2015 post coalition? Or even, heaven forbid, about local issues in some places?

nauseous5000 · 03/05/2019 20:47

OP YANBU. Can only say I am confused about the European elections (we didn't have locals) my Lab MP has done amazing pro remain stuff but I want to vote for a pro remain party, but I'm scared about the divided remain vote

AlunWynsKnee · 03/05/2019 20:48

I'd like to see some graphs that cover a longer time period, perhaps since 2000.

Helmetbymidnight · 03/05/2019 20:50

i genuinely dont understand how anyone could say - this means we must brexit - its bewilderingly tone-deaf.

badlydrawnperson · 03/05/2019 20:50

Can only say I am confused about the European elections (we didn't have locals) my Lab MP has done amazing pro remain stuff but I want to vote for a pro remain party, but I'm scared about the divided remain vote
Because the EU elections don't use our wanky outdated FPTP system, you can actually vote for what you want and it will count for something.

Laodamia · 03/05/2019 20:50

nauseous5000, the European elections aren't FPTP so you get to give a more nuanced vote.

shrill · 03/05/2019 20:50

Glad I'm not alone in being baffled by the BBC ! I had to stop watching it was so infuriating.

HelenaDove · 03/05/2019 20:53

Time FPTP was ditched.

Oliversmumsarmy · 03/05/2019 20:54

Only around 400 of the 1700 registered to vote in my ward actually voted

That much

We went rather late in the day to vote and we were number 56 and 57.

ShitAtScarbble · 03/05/2019 20:56

It feels like a shit attempt at mass gaslighting

This is exactly what it is - never mind 'feels like'. It is. Because it's fucking nonsensical - and as Judge Judy says "If it doesn't make sense it isn't true" Grin

To hear T May actually saying what she said - her summary of the reasons for the results - just left me open-mouthed! It's so patently not true - how the hell can she stand there and say that? It exactly is bloody gaslighting!

MoodLighting · 03/05/2019 20:57

Yeah I totally agree, I was thinking wtf when I heard May's crap this morning

reetgood · 03/05/2019 21:02

I think they overestimate the electorate. Round my way, a local Facebook group had a lot of people grousing because a) they didn’t want a labour mp b) there are no police anymore and this is apparently our mps fault c) why are labour still in charge of area d) you never see our mp round here. Oh and labour have millions that they’re not sharing apparently. I mean some labour councils are absolute shockers but clearly a lot of people conflate government, local government and political parties. They should really teach this stuff in schools. Oh and turnout was the usual 24% (deprived inner city ward).

Alsohuman · 03/05/2019 21:02

To be fair, it’s the Tories and Labour who are spinning the Brexit message. The EU elections will hopefully show them how wrong they are.

RomanyQueen1 · 03/05/2019 21:02

I'm in the NW and only a few people I know bothered.
People were talking about wanting Brexit now as were friends in the NE.
We are areas of Brexiteers though in 2016 it was 63.9% leave to 36.1% remain.
Always will be labour, has never changed.

HoustonBess · 03/05/2019 21:10

Wouldn't it be crazy if we just asked people what they think about Brexit in, I don't know, another referendum now it's a bit clearer what the options are?

I think it's weird to interpret the results as supporting Brexit but then I guess if you are pro-Brexit and live somewhere without UKIP standing, who do you vote for to represent you?

LoveCatzzz · 03/05/2019 21:10

BBC is referred to as British Brexit Corporation in our house, so I'm not at all surprised and never watch the news on there.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 03/05/2019 21:12

i mean the exact motivations of people's vote is always unclear but pretending this is some unanimous demand for brexit now, has been one of the weirdest interpretations ever. it makes teresa may and the bbc look stupid

Yep

To be fair if they said it was hard to tell why but was partly remain voters votimg for remain parties and partly leave voters getting cheesed off with the whole thing and not voting (bit of asilly move but still) then i would think fair enough

But using it to say that it categorically means that everyone wants to get on with brexit is the stupidest fucking thing ive ever heard...and i have been on mumsnet for a fair few years now