To think it is wrong to tell people of redundancies by email, and on a Friday before a bank holiday

[ForalltheSaints]

As has happened to those who work for the Evening Standard today. Managed by Gideon Osbourne, former chancellor.

I didn't read it when I read the paper on my way home today, surprise, surprise.

I know someone who knows someone who only found out they had no job (city) when they turned up on Monday and their security pass didn't work.

He was supposed to have been let go on the Friday, but the guy who was supposed to do it was in a meeting that overran past 6.30 .

Now that is shitty.

I was on my way to work some years ago, listening to the radio, when I heard on the news we were all going to be made redundant.

To be fair the CEO had called a meeting and I was on the way to it, but it was inappropriate to release a press release before the meeting....

I have worked for 35 years, in my experience bad news is always in a Friday. People ca go home and rant and cry and stress and have adjusted to the bad news by Monday, or in this case Tuesday.

My soon to be ex boss told me I was being performance managed on Maundy Thursday before he had a 3 week Easter leave. He kept putting off our informal review all day - until 3pm! Coward. I then handed in my notice as he was walking out the door.

His name is George. Calling him Gideon is rude, inappropriate and undermines any argument you might be making.

And if we call him a cunt?

And if we call him a cunt?

Well no one can argue with the veracity of that.

Not even BridgetReilly.

i know someone who got sacked by text whislt they wereon holiday

scum

I think notice of redundancy consultation - as opposed to notice of redundancy - is best done simultaneously across all affected employees (ie to avoid employees learning in a piecemeal fashion). That probably means email

I can't see why calling him Gideon is incorrect actually. He was born Gideon Oliver Osborne but decided to be known as George when he was 13.

That probably means email

No, it means how my colleagues and I were put at risk, required to attend or dial into a meeting. Email only is poor practice. If you’re going to put staff at risk of redundancy you should at least have the decency to tell them properly.

We're in consultation as of yesterday and the NewCo plan on taking most of our benefits away.

For mass redundancies, YouB?

The Evening Standard as a newspaper probably has most people working at the same time in the same place, apart from freelance columnists. So perfectly practical to tell everyone in a meeting.

Of course getting others to do the dirty work and difficult decisions was a feature of the Chancellor between 2010 and 2016, so the email method was common to this behaviour trait.

Our firm once left voicemails and has also sent emails to make redundancies They are generally shit on people matters

Have you actually read the email? It is notice of a period of consultation, not saying they are redundant. Notice will be given to those in redundant roles at the end of May.

No time is a good time to hear your job is at risk.

Before the days of the internet, my Dad returned from a 2 week holiday one Sat pm. Found a letter saying he had to be in the office for 10 am Sunday (he knew this was likely) and when he got there was told to clear his desk and hand over his keys & pass and not come to the building again.

It was 2 weeks before his 25 years of service. The firm had already bought his gift and planned the party. He did manage to negotiate some unused leave and extend it so that he got the 25 years, party, and gold watch. It also meant his pension went up.

I have no idea what they'd have done if he'd been on holiday one day longer, not got the letter on time and hadn't shown up. It was a big building, with several entrances. Would they have had people standing outside to intercept him?

If you’re going to start a thread then make sure your facts are right.

In the weeks before the collapse of a well established airline, the employees had been given many reassurances that there would be no job loses, the future was going to be really positive. In fact, just a few days beforehand a schedule of new long haul routes were added to the internal flights schedule systems creating great excitement for all. The positivity continued until an email at 03.30 announcing it was no more. No consultation, nothing. Some employees were on their way into work when they heard on the news

I know someone who knows someone who only found out they had no job (city) when they turned up on Monday and their security pass didn't work.

A similar thing happened to my friend and some of his colleagues. They turned up for work on the Monday and were greeted by security who handed them an envelope with their redundancy notices. It was just before Christmas and his wife had just had a baby. It was a shit time for them.

I remember working for a haulage site where we were all issued new uniforms at 0600, and then sacked en masse at tea break at 1000.
In the ensuing kerfuffle, 2000 gallons of diesel went missing after the cameras were turned off, since the security firm's contract was ended at the same time. Bunker DERV is pretty mucky, my car smoked for weeks.

I was told I was being made redundant while away on a week long business trip to the States. I was also made to work every day of my three month notice period. Large company, been there over 20 years. Never any problems with my work just my face didnt fit with new boss.

I don't see the problem of redundancy consultation period being communicated by email, means everyone gets it at the same time, which is how it should be.

Exactly, biker!

I used to work for someone who liked to communicate bad news by email on a Friday at 5pm. It got to the point we were all waiting for the 5pm drop of news.

It was shit.

This is why I am scared of
Working for a large company when you don’t necessarily see the writing on the wall

With smaller companies you know and can make plans

There is never a very good to do it really