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To be amazed at what I need to provide...

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Sexnotgender · 02/05/2019 21:39

For my sons first passport!

My parents full birth certificates and marriage certificate and the same for my husbands parents.

It’s bonkers. Has anyone else had to provide all of this?

What if you don’t have everything?

To be amazed at what I need to provide...
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ExplodingCarrots · 02/05/2019 22:14

I've recently applied for a passport for DD. Me and DH born after 1983. I filled out a paper application form and we didn't have to give grandparents birth certificates / marriage certificates. We only had to give the grandparents details on a separate bit of paper. Only sent DD's birth certificate. All came back fine.

gottastopeatingchocolate · 02/05/2019 22:14

Wow! I have never seen this before.

I was in the same family dynamic as you six years ago when I got my child's first passport (me UK, DH ILR) and I didn't have to provide all that!

Wonder why it has changed?

Applejack5 · 02/05/2019 22:14

We applied for DS's first passport recently. DH and are both British citizens with passports... we only had to send in DS's birth certificate. It must be because your husband doesn't have a British passport. Bit of a pain though!

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Sexnotgender · 02/05/2019 22:19

Did you put yourself as the person applying for the passport or did you put your dh?

I put myself. Made more sense as I’m a British citizen.

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ithinkmycatistryingtokillme · 02/05/2019 22:22

What happens if you can't provide all the documents for what ever reasons, eg family breakups etc

GinUp · 02/05/2019 22:28

I applied online for DD's passport a few weeks ago.

I only had to send her birth certificate.

We both have British passports. I don't remember there being any questions about our own parents.

Hadenoughofitall441 · 02/05/2019 22:28

They asked for that for ours, I didn’t know my dads or dps dads passport number but knew all the other information so just popped it down.

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Sexnotgender · 02/05/2019 22:29

Who knows!

We need DHs parents to send documents.

DH needs to send his passport but also needs his passport for his visaSad

So bloody stressful.

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SushiGo · 02/05/2019 22:30

I'm not sure when they started this (within the last few years) but it's a nightmare. If one parent is British and has a British passport legally the child is British and the other parent and grandparents are irrelevant.

It is the hostile environment. It's trying to put people off from applying for their children even though they have a legal right to a passport.

CaptainNelson · 02/05/2019 22:31

My DH doesn't have British passport either. My British passport number has been enough to get my kids' passports. I'm assuming you have a valid passport?
Maybe it's because you're applying online. I thought that, for children's first passports, you had to print the application and get someone to sign the back of the child's photos to say they've known you for 2 years etc? I did my DS (10)'s last year and that's what we had to do, because of his age. No parents'/grandparents' certificates involved.
Check this, OP, it doesn't sound right if you're British and have a valid UK passport.

SayItLoud1 · 02/05/2019 22:35

The UKPO are actual bastards.

If you are white British born and bred then you’re fine.

If you are British by any other means despite being British for years and years, they are now making life very difficult for you.

This is Tory policy since 2015.

Kerning · 02/05/2019 22:42

On page 9 of the guidance, it states grandparents' details are required if both parents born after 1 Jan 1983 or born abroad:

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/787392/6.4824_HMPO_Applying_for_your_Passport_Guidance_ILB_49__03.19__web.pdf

Strange that they should ask for this if you were born in 1982.

Chasingsquirrels · 02/05/2019 22:42

About grandparents:
If the applicant’s parents were born on or after 1 January 1983, you will also need to provide evidence of grandparents’ claim to British nationality by providing their birth certificates and, in the case of grandfathers, their marriage certificates.
This does not apply if:
the applicants parents’ British nationality is based on registration, naturalisation or their immigration status, or
the applicant has provided the British
passport number for parents’ in Section 4 of the application form.

Kerning · 02/05/2019 22:43

I just applied online for a passport for DD in March, me and her Dad both born here, British nationality, both born before 1982. Did not have to provide grandparents details.

GrandTheftWalrus · 02/05/2019 22:46

I was just about to ask about the born after part as DP is 1982 and I'm 1984 but both completely British and itll probably be me applying for her.

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Sexnotgender · 02/05/2019 22:59

I'm assuming you have a valid passport?

Yup, just renewed it.

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Sexnotgender · 02/05/2019 23:01

I was born pre 1983 and am British born and bred. Hmm, will give them a call tomorrow to double check.

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Davros · 02/05/2019 23:05

You shouldn't need relatives to dig around for certificates, you can order them online

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Sexnotgender · 02/05/2019 23:09

You shouldn't need relatives to dig around for certificates, you can order them online

Even documents from overseas??

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Rtmhwales · 02/05/2019 23:12

I had to provide all of these but only on the British side of the family - I'm North American, XH is British, DS is British. I had to provide my passport, our marriage certificate, his birth certificate, passport, parents' birth certificates and marriage certificate. It's because one of you is foreign born and they want to establish you have the right to pass on citizenship to your child.

Rtmhwales · 02/05/2019 23:14

Depending on his home country it can be fairly easy to order them online. Where is he from?

Expressedways · 02/05/2019 23:15

Call them to clarify, they’re very helpful on the phone. I applied for DD’s in 2017, DH isn’t a British National either but I was born after 1983. I was told to write my parent’s passport numbers on the form (there wasn’t a specific box, just to scribble them on there somewhere) and that was fine as it proved my Britishness for want of a better word. I didn’t need to provide anything for DH’s husband’s side of the family, I’d be very surprised if you had to.

RubberTreePlant · 02/05/2019 23:17

These threads keep happening. It must be a screwed up uk gov web page misleading everyone.

You only need to provide enough to establish baby's citizenship if you are a U.K. citizen from birth and were born before 1983, it's actually very simple. Your details will be enough.

RubberTreePlant · 02/05/2019 23:18

Depending on his home country it can be fairly easy to order them online. Where is he from?

No, no, no!

Don't waste money doing that!

OP is the British parent, it is her info that establishes baby's U.K. citizenship.

Andoffwegoagain · 02/05/2019 23:20

It definitely seems a lot more than in the past. I had to ring about four people to get the information and still had a few gaps!

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