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Arguing about newborns middle names

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Liveinmypjs · 01/05/2019 19:27

Need advice. I had my second child last week and myself and dh are arguing about its middle name. About 3 months before the birth dh mentioned he wanted his first name to be babies middle name if it was a boy. I said I would also like my father's first name as a second middle name. He disagrees at the time but we didn't speak about it again. My argument was as the baby obviously has his surname (our surname) and also his name as middle name, that it was nice to include a connection to my family, with my dad's name. So anyway baby is a boy and on the day of his birth when it was brought up, dh said fine to the double middle name but he didn't think it sounded great. Both names are reasonably traditional and not weird. I then told my dad who was so happy. Dh then told his mum who made some sarcastic comment as per, and after that he did he didn't want my dad's name included anymore and that I had jumped the gun s it hadn't been agreed on. We have argued so much about this and he doesn't see it as important to include a link to my family. He says it's a family tradition in his family to have the middle name of your father. But surely he should be accepting of my choices too. He wants me to tell my dad we have changed our mind but I don't want to and we have to register our ds tomorrow

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TheWernethWife · 01/05/2019 19:53

Your baby is only a week old so you don't have to register the birth tomorrow. I believe that parents have 42 days before they have to register a birth in UK.

snowdrop6 · 01/05/2019 19:53

Oh. My god ,that’s awful.does he usually not listen to you or disregard what you want..I’d be giving the children your last name if he carries on

HolyMilkBoobiesBatman · 01/05/2019 20:02

Your DH is being utterly unreasonable, uncaring, selfish and cruel.
He obviously didn’t think it was ‘jumping the gun’ when he told his Mother of the plan to use both names, or does he really see her as part of the decision making process?

As for this attitude of ‘you chose with DD so now it’s my turn to chose’ stuff that. Since when did parenting become such an exercise in ‘turn taking’? Presumably you carried and birthed both children? He and Mummy didn’t have any bright ideas on how they could help take turns on that one out of fairness? Or does he only care about having ‘his turn’ when it suits him?
Absolute man child.

Flamingosnbears · 01/05/2019 20:02

The MIL got to pick her names you get to pick yours you both need to agree together or both of you will resent each other and have name regret... Is it worth it?...

user1486131602 · 01/05/2019 20:04

Tell your hubby , if it's a tradition in his family to have fathers name as a middle one, you will drop hubbys Anne from list and add hubbys dad as middle name .....then son has his own first name, both grandpas middle names, and hubbys surname!
The word is compromise, although I'm not sure it will work!
Good luck.

Eliza9919 · 01/05/2019 20:04

Don't give in and give the baby your maiden name. That way, when you get divorced and revert to your own name cos he's a dickhead you'll have the same name as your son.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

Laodamia · 01/05/2019 20:06

I'd stand my ground until I was old and gnarled, until my hair had grown down to my ankles and the earth was scorched wasteland.

Bloody cheek of him.

Beachbodynowayready · 01/05/2019 20:07

I would start a tradition that involves slapping mil with a big wet fish...

FilthyforFirth · 01/05/2019 20:07

You can register the birth without him, but he can't do it without you. I would remind him of that. It would be a cold day in hell before I would give in to him on this. He is being massively U. Stand your ground.

I feel quite cross about this!

crispysausagerolls · 01/05/2019 20:08

Fuck. That. Shit.

  1. you have had the baby. Labour, as I now know, is horrendous. It’s awful. If you want to give your baby 10 names and pick all of them it’s your right and he is lucky he gets to contribute at all.
  2. it’s a middle name anyway so who cares
  3. how dare he refuse you this!

This has really riled me up for some reason! How dare he agree and then say no because of his bitch mother too

OhWhatFuckeryIsThisNow · 01/05/2019 20:09

Cancel the appointment, go in secret, give him your surname and call him Balonz followed by your dad's name.

Laodamia · 01/05/2019 20:10

You can register the birth without him, but he can't do it without you. I would remind him of that.

Only true for unmarried couples.

Beachbodynowayready · 01/05/2019 20:10

As a dh he can register..
My ndn some time ago was busy loving her dd Susannah.
Her dh came back with a bc for an Amanda...

happymummy12345 · 01/05/2019 20:11

Don't change it, why should you? It should be a mutual decision between the 2 of you, no one else at all. You have been more than fair.

MadeinBelfast · 01/05/2019 20:12

He can pick the middle names if the baby has your surname - does he prefer that option?!

Hazlenutpie · 01/05/2019 20:14

Stick to what you have already agreed upon. 💐

Shostakobitch · 01/05/2019 20:14

I'm so angry for you. How dare he make you feel like this a week after you've given birth?

Agree that MIL needs to butt out, she chose her baby names when she had her DC. Cancel the appointment tomorrow or go without him. Hope he pulls himself together and realises how awful he's being, if not then show him this thread!

NameChange30 · 01/05/2019 20:16

Did you give your DD a middle name from your side of the family? Your Mum's first/middle name or another link? Hope so.

Your "D"H is obviously being unreasonable and you should give both middle names as originally agreed. You could register the birth without him but he could do the same so tread carefully.

Tbh it sounds as if you have bigger problems than middle name choices. With your DH and MIL issues maybe you need to start a thread in Relationship. You might find it helpful to read the book "Toxic In-Laws" by Susan Forward.

Everydaypeople · 01/05/2019 20:17

Stick to your guns here, both or none. Or as a pp said your surname.

Italiangreyhound · 01/05/2019 20:19

Liveinmypjs to me it is very bad that you have carried this baby for nine months and birthed this baby and your dh has been deciding about names with little or no consideration for you (or so it seems to me).

I cannot advise you what to do but in your shoes I would not miss off your dad's name. You get to choose too, and you both agreed, and now your dh is going against this.

Include your husband's name and your dad's name. Tell your MIL it is none of her business what your son is called, it is between you and your dh.

Calatonia · 01/05/2019 20:21

@Eliza9919

Don't give in and give the baby your maiden name.
This.
Since your maiden name is presumably your dad's name... .

NameChange30 · 01/05/2019 20:24

OP and DC1 already have DH's surname, so I don't see the point in giving DC2 her maiden name, DC2 will be the odd one out and won't share a surname with any immediate family. OP could change her surname back, but she couldn't change DC1's surname without DH's permission. Which will hardly be forthcoming!

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 01/05/2019 20:27

We have argued so much about this and he doesn't see it as important to include a link to my family. He says it's a family tradition in his family to have the middle name of your father. But surely he should be accepting of my choices too. He wants me to tell my dad we have changed our mind

So something that one of his ancestors first decided, possibly hundreds of years ago, is of utmost importance, but something that YOU, the child's actual Mother, want, is of no importance? It's not even like it has to be one or the other - it isn't enough for him to get exactly what he wants (which sounds reasonable), he's only happy as long as you specifically DON'T get what YOU want - even though there's no problem whatsoever with both of you having your choice? And it's so important to him that he wants you not to get what you want, when what he wants is already in place and not in any jeopardy, that he has actually been arguing for his right to deny you it?

He shouldn't be 'accepting' of your choices - that makes it sound like he's the one in charge of a 100% joint right and responsibility and you only get any say at all if he deigns to allow it.

He also not only wants YOU to tell your Dad, but to lie and make out that BOTH OF YOU have changed your minds? Having already made your combined decision and informed your respective families, he wants to deliberately snub your Dad by insisting on removing the name that, as PPs have said, will only really appear on official forms and be there as an honour and a gesture, and will not even frequently be used - and he expects YOU to be the one to deliver this snub?

This is very concerning, controlling behaviour. If you don't stand your ground on this one, who knows what else he'll decide he has sole autonomy on and that your opinions and decisions don't matter at all?

If he persists, make him justify his ridiculous behaviour. Tell him that the decision centres around what you each want to name your joint child. You each have one request on the agenda. His request is his name as one middle name, which you have agreed on. Your request is for your father's name as a second middle name, so on what grounds could he possibly object? Force him to tell you straight and justify exactly why an absence of another middle name is more important to him than that his other parent also gets the one that his she wants.

This has to be non-negotiable, otherwise he'll take it as a licence to overrule you in any number of things in the future.

CloserIAm2Fine · 01/05/2019 20:27

He’s being an absolute cock

You’ve just given birth a week ago and he’s making you miserable already!

Don’t back down or you’ll regret it every time you have to list your sons full name.

You’re not saying he can’t have his choice of middle name, you want to include your choice as well. You’re being 100% reasonable and he is being a cock. And his mother needs to mind her own bloody business!

Horsemenoftheaclopalypse · 01/05/2019 20:31

Hold your ground

Two middles names is totally normal (Irish family)
They are barely used and it means so much to your dad and cock all to your “D”H

Also IMO naming a child after yourself is the ultimate knob move (it’s really rather cringe)

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