To think I shouldn't be THIS heavy??

[Lotsofsausage]

So to start, I know I am no supermodel. Fairly tall at 5'8, size 14, smaller waist, medium bust. Fairly curvy arse/ thighs but toned. I am fit and strong and exercise 4-5x per week, including strength training.

Now I know measurements and photos are a better gauge than the scales, and muscle is meant to weigh more than fat (but I thought that was bullshit).....I am 14.5 stone! I have a friend with the same body measurements as me and same height and she is TWO STONE lighter.
Can some people just be 'heavy'???

I am glad they have got sense and don’t live their lives in misery chasing a pipe dream of size 8 or 10st.

Not entirely sure how I ended up as the poster child for body positivity movement, but in real life I'm a size 10, 27 waist jeans, 5'6'' tall. So by most standards I would not be considered massively fat - but according to my BMI, I'm not even at the heavier end of normal, I'm overweight and should urgently take some measures to get my weight down to healthy levels.

Figure on the scales is what gets people in trouble. This is where a lot of eating disorders take root in. Not what people feel like, not what they look like, now how fit they are. It is THE NUMBER.

You preach the BMI because you must be small-framed enough that you actually ‘managed’ to go under the healthy BMI. So the healthy range gives you PLENTY of playing room, even if you put on fat, even if you put on quite a lot of fat.

What you don’t seem to get, SOME people in their prime physical form cannot get within ‘healthy’ BMI. What planet are you on if you think G5000 is overweight? She CANNOT get any lighter. Should she strive anyway to the detriment of her health and well-being to achieve this ‘ideal’? She has got more sense than that.

I am overweight for my build and not in my absolute prime shape, that is true. However, I am fit, healthy and strong. If I reach my perfect fat percentage, I can go down to BMI 27 and will look like G5000. Anybody can sod off telling me it is too fat. It is great for me and my frame.

The fact you will have a pot belly and rolls of fat all over at this weight doesn’t mean I will.

I'm just unsure why op felt the need to bullshit about their 5k time. It's not helped the argument one bit. How can we trust anything knowing that's a lie?

Many people do 5/2 (fasting 2 days a week) and very few of them actually lose weight, they generally maintain because it's what you eat over the course of a week that matters, not individual days.

I think you misunderstand 5:2 - you restrict your calories on 2 days a week and eat healthily to your TDEE for the other 5.

Many people (not “very few”) will lose weight if they do this carefully and don’t eat back the calories or eat shed loads of crap on the non restricted days.

at the top end of my 'healthy' bmi my liver is not happy (middle age spread)

I am happy to answer your questions that you took the trouble to type, Kenny.

1. Are you also an anti vaxxer, into homeopathy, against chemo, etc? Or is your rejection of overwhelming scientific and medical consensus restricted to issues relating to body weight only?

I am vaccinated myself and vaccinated my children. I have tried homeopathic remedies and they have helped me and my children (for hay fever and eczema). Doctors creams for eczema were useless and continued the suffering of my son. I was told there is nothing else they can do. I have tried herbal remedies and they have helped me and my children (as above).

Please don’t make out that conventional medical consensus of the day is always right. Diabetics type 2 have been told to eat ‘normally’ for decades and told that their disease is progressively degenerative. There is scientific research (yes proper research) that demonstrates that diabetes type 2 can be completely reversed just by way of diet. Your GP still won’t tell you that and will put you on insulin which may happily (or rather not) get you to your limbs being amputated.

2. Do you claim that every anorexic (ie people with a real diagnosis of anorexia, which includes being underweight) have 'a small frame'?

No.

3. I personally prefer how I look and feel with a BMI of around 17. But because I respect huge, massive, longitudinal retrospective studies with cohorts of millions of people, I defer to the knowledge gained there. Why do you think that your opinion is worth more than these huge properly conducted studies?

I never said that. Common sense does go a long way though.

4. What do you mean when you say that a person 'CANNOT'get lighter?

It means the figure on the scales will not go down.

Green elephant scarf, you are wrong 😜
You can’t possibly have a fatty liver within a ‘healthy’ BMI. What do you mean you have excess visceral fat, you can’t be fat. BMI says you are healthy.

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I might be mixed up with another poster, I don't think I've claimed I can't lose weight. I'm sure I could lose some - just that it will take quite a bit of effort and at size 10, I don't think I have a huge immediate risk of all the horrible obesity related diseases.

Yes, I do grasp it hence the tongue in cheek. But you don’t seem to grasp that healthy BMI is not be all and end all. It is not the BMI, it is the muscle mass in relation to fat mass. But I did say that 15 pages ago 🙄

Oh goodness, not even thinner! I am out.

This is so bizarre. I’m just under 9 stone. 5’6 and I can’t fit comfortably into a size 10😡🤯 What the actual fuck? Dancemom, how the hell are you in a size 8 at 2 stone heavier and 2 inches shorter???

Oops, thought I was at the end of the thread but clearly wasn’t.

I have always weighed “heavy” for my size. I’ve had several hcps weigh me during pregnancy and say something along the lines of “gosh! You don’t look that heavy”.

I’m very muscly and fat at presentthough. Meh.

Go by how you look and feel. The scales are not that important.

Happy I see the message you're talking about.

That poster has a BMI of 25.2
I too am having trouble working out how that can be a size 8