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Boys and rent !!

39 replies

ABbythesea · 29/04/2019 14:32

Hello,
I have just joined up - am at the end of my tether with my 20 year old son. I could really do with some advice!
He is now working full time earning 15k a year - I ask him for £30 per week and ask him to buy his own packed lunch stuff and afters, like puddings etc. I cook an evening meal for him but there is also a freezer full of food to chuck something in the oven when I'm out.

Am I being unreasonable? He feels very hard done by!!!

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MrsTerryPratchett · 29/04/2019 14:35

Get him to do a budget for moving out. Rent, shopping and all of that. If he doesn't like Hotel de Mummy, he can go and find somewhere with cooked meals and everything for 30 quid.

NewGrandad · 29/04/2019 14:35

£30 a week is very good value. £30 out of roughly £250 a week? Not unreasonable.

My own 20+ year old makes slightly more than that (but not a lot) and pays £75 pw happily.

Finfintytint · 29/04/2019 14:36

Ask him to explain how he’d fare on his wage if he lived in rented accommodation.

TeenTimesTwo · 29/04/2019 14:38

YANBU. Minimum rent round by us is £450 for a house share inc bills.

How I would feel about it would depend on
a) whether we need the extra money
b) whether he is saving money saved, or wasting it

Still18atheart · 29/04/2019 14:40

On a similar wage to your son. If not less. Still live with parents I pay £150 a month.

Still18atheart · 29/04/2019 14:42
  • excl my lunch for work and a few extra bits and pieces I.e if mum says oh your going to supermarket can you get some bin bags & milk or whatever I don’t expect money back
Amelia910 · 29/04/2019 14:46

When I was on that wage and living at home couple of years ago, I paid £75 a week and bought all my own food. He needs a reality check!

BarbaraofSevillle · 29/04/2019 14:47

He hasn't got a clue has he?

£30 a week is far too little unless he is helping out in other ways.

I was paying that nearly 30 years ago out of £450 pm earnings and I had to take my mum shopping and younger siblings to school as I had a car.

He should be paying more like £100 a week if he's getting the full service of bed, board, food and doesn't contribute to housework/DIY/cooking/gardening or whatever. And saving a bit for when he does move out.

Unless he ends up in a very well paid job, he's probably got more money to play with now than he will at any other time in his lifetime.

Megan2018 · 29/04/2019 14:49

I paid £200/month at that age on similar income! That was 20 years ago. What else is he spending on? I only had car, mobile, clothes and very busy social life to fund and managed easily.

MrsTerryPratchett · 29/04/2019 14:50

I teach kids around his age financial literacy and when I ask them where they live, anyone who says, "at home with Mum/Dad/carers" I say, "congratulations, you're the richest you'll ever , thank your parents". It gets a laugh.

ABbythesea · 29/04/2019 14:59

Thank you all very much for your replies, I am going to sit down with him this evening and try and work out what his problem is.

Yesterday he came home from his dads with a huge box. I said what's in there? He said.....Oh, I think dad feels sorry for me, ...... it's food!

The likes of crisps, cans, chocolate etc.
Needless to say, I said to my son that he should live there!!!!
Thanks again everyone.
Annette

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Toooldtocareanymore · 29/04/2019 15:22

My friend had a similar issue with her just gone 21 son feeling hard done by for being "forced to hand over" his words- £50 a week from his similar salary, her ds was handing her a shopping list of the foods he wanted in eg fancy biscuits, more crisps, branded soft drinks as mixers rather than supermarket brands, as he was handing over so much money- his words. What's worse was he was working in a restaurant and could have free meals at lunchtime if he went to work half an hour early, but chose not to. So she just sat him down one evening, they went through the whole years gas and electricity bills divided by 12 and pointed out of the two of them living in house he used half, council tax for two rather than one, the sky package for tv and broadband,- she said shed pay half even though it was far more him than her, all household bills including the contents insurance , her car she paid for and he got lifts for free she brought him to work three days a week so she added in the three days bus fare, anyway at end they totted it up, she did it in a spread sheet - they agreed a budget for his share of loo paper, tea, coffee, sugar, washing detergent, toothpaste, milk, based on supermarket receipts etc which were all things he used, as anyone normal would expect- there was nothing left of the £50 for other food or drink. In fact he owed her, and then she reminded him he should be paying her rent not just his share of bills and shopping.

She said she didn't think it would make much difference, she was just annoyed at constant grief and chasing him for money, but she says every payday now he buys a few treats and has told her to help herself to his fancy biscuits, he gave her an extra at Christmas from his bonus and he's also been saving for a holiday with a friend and she heard him telling his friend that they needed a budget for food, drink sundries as they can cost a fair packet. Maybe something similar with your son would work when they see it on paper it becomes real

gokartdillydilly · 29/04/2019 15:25

My 21 year old pays 25% of his salary, whatever it is. He knows if he was in a flat-share he'd be on more than double that. He thinks he's got it cushie. Hard done by my arse!

Redshoeblueshoe · 29/04/2019 15:25

Tooold that sounds really sensible

Macandcheese05 · 29/04/2019 15:49

when i was a teenager my first job paid £120 a week, (£520 a month). of that i paid £25 a week (so £110 a month) to my mom happily. This went on for around 5 years until I moved out.

what i didnt know at the time was that she was saving it up and, when I moved out, she gave it to me to buy furniture etc.

BikeRunSki · 29/04/2019 15:54

My parents charged me and my siblings 1/3 of our income when we were out of education, but living at home.

ABbythesea · 29/04/2019 16:42

Thank you for all these replies. Really is an eye opener!

Wish me luck this evening x

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comingintomyown · 29/04/2019 16:54

I warned mine a year ahead that they would be paying keep and when the time came did exactly what was said upthread sat him down and listed all the bills etc so that it was clear it wasn’t rent but going towards covering actual cost of them living here. Also chores are to done no fuss.
Initially I think there might of been resentment as nobody else he knew pays anything or indeed does anything but now at 22 he thinks on that score his peers are very spoilt
DS 2 has got away with less as his employment has been rather chequered and in fact he has decamped to his Dads as he isn’t expected to contribute!

CuriousaboutSamphire · 29/04/2019 17:07

You don't need luck. You need a pen and paper, internet search engine and some determination.

You have already suggested he lives with his dad... Plan B already in place! See how long he lives off crisps and chocolate there!!!

zod1ac19 · 29/04/2019 17:27

Have a look at the website below for what the going rate for a room in your area is. I was shocked that it's about £500pcm here.

www.spareroom.co.uk/

Tell him what it is and that you plan to charge £x from now on. He may get a shock!

Loftyswops988 · 29/04/2019 17:34

I've recently moved home for a year or so to help me save, I am mid twenties and am studying. I give £50pw but will up that to £75pw as I work over summer. Your son should be giving it without even questioning it!

Purpleartichoke · 29/04/2019 17:36

Especially if food is included, 1/3 of his income seems more reasonable. In other words, you are massively undercharging him. You can always put the money into a savings account for him when he finally gets his own place, but if he is living at home he should also be saving on top of paying you rent.

Clutterbugsmum · 29/04/2019 17:46

I'd suggest if he doesn't want to pay rent and some of his food then he can go live with his dad or pay more for room in shared accommodation.

MrsTerryPratchett · 29/04/2019 17:50

If he doesn't want to have the conversation about it either, he can move.

Redshoeblueshoe · 29/04/2019 19:33

Zodiac I just checked my area and it's £500 a month here too Shock

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