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having a wibble, Manchester Arena related

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staydazzling · 27/04/2019 13:21

booked an event that's happening later on this year, happening at Manchester Arena, at the time I didn't think about the events and it later occurred to me, dh and I having a bit of a wibble now. I'm trying to reassure myself that security should be really tight there, and assuming events have happened there since but I'm curious what would everyone else do?

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AuldJosey · 27/04/2019 22:07

McGuinness & Adams were NI as far as I know.

CheeseFace · 27/04/2019 22:09

I live around the corner from the arena and work opposite, I feel safe. You have to live your life and crack on.

AuldJosey · 27/04/2019 22:11

Everyone says it's the Irish fighting, in fact, it's the people in NI that you occupied and now own who are fighting. The Irish are busy having a cheilí in actual Ireland.

AuldJosey · 27/04/2019 22:12

OP, when you get there everyone will all be normal. You've nothing to fear. Just people living.

RedPandaFluff · 27/04/2019 22:12

@AuldJosey Don't people born in NI have dual nationality? They can have either British or Irish passports?

AuldJosey · 27/04/2019 22:13

Not after a recent ruling they don't. They're British.

RedPandaFluff · 27/04/2019 22:14

Also, 'cheili'?! It's céilidh!

RedPandaFluff · 27/04/2019 22:18

@AuldJosey can you share a link? I've just googled and can't find anything to indicate the right to dual citizenship under the Good Friday Agreement has changed - would be really interested to see what's happened.

AuldJosey · 27/04/2019 22:19

@RedPandaFluff It's a hooley where I'm from lol. But going back to LC Irish you're probably right! Grin

AuldJosey · 27/04/2019 22:21

It basically means that while they can claim to be Irish, they're not entitled to the same rights as Irish citizens. It hasn't been covered much but there were a few articles about it.

TokyoSushi · 27/04/2019 22:21

I was there on Thursday, security is super tight, its completely fine

Dontsayyouloveme · 27/04/2019 22:22

Also been twice this week to see Take That. Yes, it felt a bit strange the first day but the security is tight so you do feel very safe now. Try not let it spoil your time there 🤗

RedPandaFluff · 27/04/2019 22:23

Thanks @AuldJosey (cross-post) - my reading of this is that NI people can still have Irish citizenship, but not the associated EU rights. Although this seems to be still under review.

So, they still have dual nationality.

AuldJosey · 27/04/2019 22:25

Not really. They don't have the rights of being an Irish (EU) citizen.

AuldJosey · 27/04/2019 22:28

What it means is that they're Irish in name only and don't have the rights of Irish citizens. They're British first and foremost. There were more interesting articles about it at the time but I can't find them. It came to the fore about 2 weeks ago.

crazycatgal · 27/04/2019 22:30

I went a few weeks ago and security is very tight now. I felt really safe, you have no need to worry.

whyohwhyowhydididoit · 27/04/2019 22:31

I agree that you will be safer there than anywhere that hasn’t been targeted.

And I saw ‘Home I’m Darling’ in London a few weeks ago and thought it was great. However if anyone is planning on going to see Admisssions at Trafalgar Studios in London, take my advice and spend your money on something else. I thought it was dreadful, a lot of shouty lecturing.

AuldJosey · 27/04/2019 22:31

That said, if a NI person has an Irish passport, they can roam freely I'd think? There was something more nuanced to the discussion at the time, but I can't quite remember what. The crux was that they were British citizens first and foremost.

AuldJosey · 27/04/2019 22:41

www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/uk-immigration-rules-deny-ni-born-irish-citizens-access-to-eu-rights-1.3846117

A better source.

Sorry OP for having a tangential discussion on your thread! Don't worry! Everyone is safe.

Fiveredbricks · 27/04/2019 22:52

@AuldJosey "British Terrorists" 😂

Yes... because they want to be British so much they blew us up 🙄

They're Irish. And they will always be Irish. They're the sodding IRA. And are an Ireland wide problem. NI and ROI. Why even make such an ignorant comment.

Fiveredbricks · 27/04/2019 22:54

@whyohwhyowhydididoit it fell flat in the Lowry. I think we have a very different sense of humour up North and it just didn't work well at all. The theatre was half empty too as it's not being well received I don't think.

It was like the same sort of humour as in Miranda. It just doesn't work well up here.

AuldJosey · 27/04/2019 22:58

Excuse me? They're British subjects who don't want to be British (the whole point). They're not Irish, they're not owned by Ireland, they're owned by the Crown. So they are British.

In Ireland, there were no 'troubles'. We were getting on with life. The Troubles were in the occupied part of Ireland known as Northern Ireland. Everyone there was British. So why people say it was the Irish, I can't fathom.

AuldJosey · 27/04/2019 23:00

And please don't try to drag Irish people into your Northern Irish problem with being British. Not our circus, not our monkeys.

Fiveredbricks · 27/04/2019 23:02

It will be soon @AuldJosey 😁 you're getting them back soon enough I'll bet. Maybe before 2035 I reckon.

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