To ask you to share your "friend's" crazy mlm claim

[m0therofdragons]

I don't have mlm friends so this was a surprise treat from one who's just started selling Body Shop products. Now, I like body shop and have fond memories of my teen years spraying white musk constantly, but magic cream that vanishes stretch marks? It's not a bloody rash

Anyway, it prompted me to ask, what other wild mlm claims have you seen recently?

You seem to pick and choose what questions or points you'd like to answer! I did say I was struggling to find a better term.

I thought you were definitely off now?

Any type 2 diabetic who get down to a healthy weight and maintains it will most likely put their diabetes into remissionand there are far better ways of doing that that going on a starvation diet.

www.thelancet.com/action/showFullTextImages?pii=S0140-6736%2817%2933102-1

So to say the Cambridge diet is the cure is wrong. Losing the weight and keeping a healthy bmi is what “cures” them

They don't say it's the cure as far as I'm aware? Just that it's been proven that type 2 can be put into remission. Have a look here:

bmjopen.bmj.com/content/7/8/e016709

I will definitely leave now, as I don't think there's anything more for me to gain. So, I'll hide the thread. I've made my points, without attacking anyone, so I'll leave that there.

But any weight loss and regaining a healthy bmi will cure diabetes.
You don’t need to play a Cambridge rep and starve yourself living on as little as 500 cats a day in fact I would think doing so would be pretty dangerous is you were a diabetic.

@Dontsweatthelittlestuff

Aargh. I really will leave the thread

However, for the benefit of others reading I really must correct the inaccuracies in your post.

A type 2 diabetic following Cambridge Weight Plan would be closely monitored by a doctor and a medical team at HO. They would not be allowed to have less than 800 calories and any plan they followed would have taken all their medical history into consideration.

Surely a he's diet might do the same. However, this would take a lot longer than following this plan.

The droplet trial I linked above shows how this has been successful. A quick google will show the success stories.

I really, really must leave now

I was told it would cure my chronic illness and Crohns Disease.

@DontVisitMe whoever told you that was wrong. That is definitely not a claim that Cambridge make.

Well it was, as it was made

If it was a Cambridge consultant you should report them. Would be better if you had it in writing 😀

Got a hun selling Younique. A month or so ago, they launched some skincare range and she became a you-o-logist or whatever it is, some kind of skincare expert because she'd passed some younique training thing. Apparently this stuff would transform your skin.

But she's still videoing herself using the younique make up to conceal her many spots and blemishes (her words). Surely they'd be gone if the skincare stuff was so good?!

Last year, trying to flog the younique perfume. That she hadn't smelt and had no samples of. Yeah ok...who buys a perfume they can't smell first?! Wasn't cheap either.

Currently she's trying to get preorders for some new mascara that's amazing and will sell out on day one. Company is missing a trick surely...If the mascara is so brilliant, make some more of it so it doesn't sell out.

I am so over MLMs (which includes Cambridge!).

I currently have FB friends doing NuSkin, Osborne, Forever Living & Scentsy. The Scentsy is the worst, as one FB friend has recruited another, and a third is thinking of joining.

The thing is, they are my FB friends as I'm interested in keeping in touch with them, their children, their hobbies, their lives - these are the reasons we became FB friends in the first place. Instead of which, almost every goddamn post is an attempt to sell something or recruit others to sell something, and I'm utterly fed up with it. I've ended up unfollowing a couple, hoping that give it a year or so, and they'll get past it. One of them has gone a bit quiet on the selling, so hopefully that is done. Another one, I really feel for - she is posting almost constantly with new items she has bought - which I think she is buying to keep her points up & stay live, or some such thing. But her original reason for getting involved was extra money, and it looks to me like she's spending more money than she's getting. I feel so bad for her. But I feel if I say anything, it won't help, it will just alienate her.

I miss their previous posts - watching their kids growing up (never see that unless it's a pic of their kids being used to promote a product), enjoying mutual interests.

I do try to have some sympathy - many years ago, when I was younger & more naive, I got mixed up in an MLM scheme, and when I look back on it now, I'm so embarrassed, and feel so bad for what I put people through (this was before hunbot days) - I wasn't a total dyed in the wool pain in the arse, and thankfully came to my senses. But you know what - these MLMs haven't changed a bit in that time - the script is just the bloody same. So I try to understand that they've been swept along in the dream of not having to work, being a millionaire, etc. I've been there. And admitting you got it wrong means giving up on those dreams, plus turning your back on (what seems to be) a supportive community. But hell it's hard sometimes - I just want to scream, or ask if they're keeping a spreadsheet of costs!

I've seen my wife buying Younique and Juice Plus shite from her girlfriends...

When I asked my wife why she bought the stuff that she readily admitted was shite and didn't want - and here's the thing that pisses me off most...

She said she wanted to support other women.

Women supporting women is great - but these MLM's thrive and breed off Women Supporting Women.

When actually, she needed telling that really - her mate had a garage FULL of sodding fruit dust, that she'd bought on her credit card and eventually went on eBay for a tenth of the cost - and still hasn't paid it off :(

uokhun.uk/2019/01/01/this-busy-mums-weight-loss-story-will-inspire-you/

Really interested to hear thoughts on Utility warehouse. They claim it's not MLM (clearly it is). I have a friend who does this and it's so cringe how she's been brainwashed and keeps dropping in to conversation about how yet another person is interested in 'the business'.

A (former) friend of a friend also does it and my friend says she's changed beyond recognition and lost friends and had strained family relations as a result of the cult like behaviour and fact that they're always trying to sign you up.

@Sissyinthesummertime you sound completely brainwashed, sorry. You're using all the right words that make a bot.

To clarify re the NHS - Cambridge Diet funded a trial in a small cluster of GP surgeries last year on less than 300 patients. This is not unusual, having worked for the NHS in the past trials and research are often funded by external bodies with a vested interest (whether that is morally right is another thread altogether) - although it was actually a BMJ/Oxford Uni trial not NHS. This does NOT mean the NHS supports or recommends the Cambridge Diet. NHSE, like after many successful trials, are considering results based on the trial and are considering making shakes an official recommendation for morbidly obese people with type 2 diabetes

Previous poster's mention of 'Amway' reminded me of when the couple downstairs wanted a few minutes with us one evening. They sat in our sitting room and tried to sign us up to Amway. We made polite noises indicating it wasn't our thing. I was getting bored.

I was wondering how to say 'just kindly bugger off now" but more politely when our elderly and somewhat testy cat jumped onto the back of the sofa and started eyeballing the guy's hair; followed up with some tentative tapping. Then progressed to lifting strands of the guy's hair using semi sheathed claws. The guy tried to discourage the cat by waving his hands around his head. This made testy cat annoyed and more determined to inspect his hair. They left very quickly! I know a sensitive hostess would have shifted the cat but I wasn't feeling 'kind'. We had to laugh with our faces buried in cushions to muffle our snorts in case the sound travelled through the floor.

Cambridge absolutely is an MLM, sorry, direct selling scheme.

To start you need a consultant to 'sponsor' you who will be your online.

They even say on their website:

You can earn money both from selling the Products and building your own team of Consultants

Which is what MLM is!

Upline not online

An acquaintance of mine has just got sucked into Scentsy.
She is pregnant, has just given up her full time job because her wanker boyfriend wants her to be a SAHM.
I don't know her well enough to say anything, but she is just the type they target isn't she? She isn't well off, in a min wage admin job, and the MLM says she can have it all.

She is now posting all over FB how amazing her life is. I want to scream - PLEASE go back to work!

@GnocchiGnocchi Utility Warehouse is definitely MLM. I have a relative I barely speak to because of his brainwashing. Tried to recruit me to her 'team' weeks after I had my first baby. Always posts that she loves working part time but works part time plus UW so more than full time hours 🙄. Always posting that she's just been paid, life is so amazing,etc. It's so sad.

*her

Utility Warehouse: www.theguardian.com/money/2017/jul/08/get-rich-quick-utility-warehouse-energy-scheme-joanna-lumley

I asked a personal trainer at the gym for tips on how to tone up for my wedding. I was told the best way was to buy herbilife shakes!
Also blocked a friend on fb after seeing way too many posts on juiceplus and how amazing it is for weight loss. But the killer for me was when she announced even her 10 and 12 year old daughters were taking it! I mean that good solid parenting there! What a way to inforce body image issues.

Someone I know is deeply into forever living. She’s forever going to events and conferences and winning prizes top business awards. All expenses paid holidays to far found destinations. She contacts me every 6 months, just a hi, how are you, type of message but actively avoids me if she sees me in town! When she first started at forever, she held a demo and when questioned, couldn’t give any clear reasons why her brand was better than any other, just stating others were full of rubbish. About 6 weeks after colleagues had parted with their cash I over heard several conversations questioning her claims!