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Brooklyn Beckham

226 replies

TigersRoll · 24/04/2019 13:12

I don’t know what it is about the man but I find him annoying. I have no problem with either of his parents or the rest of the family but him ... there’s just something about him.

His photography is god awful and he has such a smug face!

AIBU or is he a bit unlikable?

(Disclaimer - light hearted!! I don’t despise the bloke or wish harm on him and yes I might be a bit jealous that he’s loaded and has done fuck all to earn any of it!) 😁

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LuvSmallDogs · 25/04/2019 12:37

I wonder if anyone decrying BB’s privilege due to his folks’ money and fame feel so strongly about MC parents sending their kids to private school, hiring tutors, asking Jonty with the accounting firm to see if there’s any work for dear Hugo?🤨

Cbatothinkofaname · 25/04/2019 12:49

In answer to Luvsmalldog - I think it’s totally up to parents what they do, provided it’s legal. That doesn’t necessarily mean it’s in the best interests of the child though.

So eg: a kid who gets sent to an academic private school, is coached into grammar school who is then very unhappy has not been done a favour by their parents.

Likewise if dear Hugo isn’t really up to the job and is out of his depth then the family leg up hasn’t really done him any favours either.

The point people are making is that the Beckham kids ‘achievements’ are at worst a humiliation (the photography book) or at best a bit of an embarrassment (the pop song and the modelling.) The kids seem perfectly pleasant looking, average kids, but models and photographers they are not.

You imply that people are decrying them because they’ve somehow been given an unfair advantage. I see it as the exact opposite. Helping your children is the natural desire for any parent. Forcing them to live out their lives publicly is a very different thing.

KC225 · 25/04/2019 12:54

Sleepingsloth There are plenty of children of celebrities that have made it - Lilly Depp, Gaia Gerber as mentioned by previous posters, the Hadid sisters. No one would doubt their credentials as models. There are plenty of acting families.

But sometimes the leg up is too soon when all you have to trade on is your parents. Think Kelly Osborne - dire recording attempt. Self conscious as a presenter. Yet the sister Amy who didn't appear on the show refused because she wanted to be taken seriously as an actress. Thonk Julian Lennon. Think Sophia Coppola who was slated her huge part Godfather 3 yet after experience and finding her talent she became a respected film director.

Plenty of people get a leg up - do you really think Christian Lacroix would take any 16 year who didn't happen to be Stella McCartney. But she also studied design at two universities to hone her craft. She was given a leg up not an ejector seat to the very top.

Cbatothinkofaname · 25/04/2019 13:15

‘She was given a leg up not an ejector seat to the very top’ - great way of describing it!

I don’t think anyone is denying that connections are used all over the place as a leg up. But there’s a massive leap between a helping hand for someone who has the talent, aptitude and is already putting in the hard work, and just pimping your kids out to do practically anything for publicity.

Cindy Crawfords kids (both) are absolutely model material. You only need to look at a few of their shots to see they’re complete naturals at the job. And while I’m sure having cindy as their mum hasn’t exactly harmed them, there’s no denying they have exactly the attributes needed anyway.

The Beckham kids clearly don’t. Give any teenager a decent camera and they could do as well or better than BB. Take an average looking teenage boy, give them a sharp haircut and a good backdrop and they could look at least as good as Romeo Beckham doing the Burberry campaign.

This is what people are objecting to. They have been really unfair to their children.

potatopeelings · 25/04/2019 13:56

They're worth according to the Daily Mail over £200 million
Oh well, it must be true then Hmm

Cbatothinkofaname · 25/04/2019 13:59

Haha completely meaningless figure!
But they’re clearly watching the money roll in.

SleepingSloth · 25/04/2019 14:11

I don’t think anyone is denying that connections are used all over the place as a leg up. But there’s a massive leap between a helping hand for someone who has the talent, aptitude and is already putting in the hard work, and just pimping your kids out to do practically anything for publicity.

Wasn't the photography book done quite recently? So it would have been Brooklyns decision to do it I imagine so hardly the parents thrusting him into the limelight. And some of the people criticising the photos did make me laugh...most of them wouldn't know anything about photography. I have no idea if the photos were any good or not, because I'm definitely not qualified to judge. If photographer said they were rubbish, fair enough, but all these random people, who have probably only ever taken photos on their iPhone, slating them was just ridiculous.

Modelling, loads of kids do modelling. I know a few kids who do modelling and one who has been in a few films. Again, I wouldn't want my kids doing it but many ordinary parents let their kids do it. I think Romeo Beckham is a good looking young boy so I think he could be a child model quite easily.

People do seem to have a huge amount of hate for the Beckhams.

Cbatothinkofaname · 25/04/2019 14:25

Are you suggesting one would need to be a professional photographer to judge those photos as an exercise in mediocrity?

Oh come on... surely you’re kidding?

Cbatothinkofaname · 25/04/2019 14:28

And huge amounts of hate? Again, you’re kidding? Loads of people love them! They have a huge following. Then there’s those who just don’t get that, and think they’ve been unfair pushing their kids into the spotlight.

Then there’s people who start threads saying they dislike them... again, not something I would do, I don’t know them. However it does lead to valid discussion about the cult of celebrity.

But huge amounts of hate... I doubt anyone feels that’s strongly

BackInTime · 25/04/2019 14:39

I don't think they've gone to 'extraordinary lengths' to court publicity for their kids at all.

Really Hmm

AlaskanOilBaron · 25/04/2019 14:52

Modelling, loads of kids do modelling. I know a few kids who do modelling and one who has been in a few films. Again, I wouldn't want my kids doing it but many ordinary parents let their kids do it. I think Romeo Beckham is a good looking young boy so I think he could be a child model quite easily.

It seems to me that possibly you're being deliberately obtuse?

Modelling is meant to be exceptional. It's not something that anyone can dabble in if they're interested and generally attractive.

AlaskanOilBaron · 25/04/2019 15:01

Oh, and I do not hate the Beckhams. I like VB, I think I admire her (i'm skeptical about the extent to which she's had to run her business as an actual business so my admiration is measured), and she comes over well in interviews.

I think she has clouded judgement when it comes to her kids, maybe she's been in showbiz too long.

Cbatothinkofaname · 25/04/2019 15:11

Next SleepingSloth will be telling us Cruz has a superb singing voice.....

.... or maybe that it’s actually quite ordinary but that’s ok because hordes of ordinary families have kids who release a Christmas single and gets airplay on national radio Grin

findingmyfeet12 · 25/04/2019 15:20

A lot of children model but not for high end fashion houses!

Every photo posted by the Beckhams is clearly carefully vetted to give them and the children the best possible exposure. They all sit front row at their mother's fashion shows. They could just as easily stay at home.

VB has worked hard to get where she is on limited talent. She probably knows that this is the children's best way to "success". It's a bit like the Kardashians. Lack of talent means you need a brand.

There's clearly a market for it so good for them. I do object though when people seem to think it's not on to criticise BB's photography or their credentials as models. Why not? As the consumers we have every right to be critical.

SauvingnonBlanketyBlanc · 25/04/2019 15:23

He has a very bland face imo

laurG · 25/04/2019 15:46

I feel sorry for him. It’s not his fault his parents are famous and be default he has fame he might never have wanted. He got an absolute slating for releasing that book. Someone should have foreseen that that was a stupid idea. What’s he supposed to do? He doesn’t really need to work. People probably take advantage of him. He will be targeted by hangers on and money grabbers. He clearly enjoys photography but even if he does have the talent for it he will always be considered a product of nepotism.

SleepingSloth · 25/04/2019 16:16

Next SleepingSloth will be telling us Cruz has a superb singing voice....

I've never heard him sing, so no.

But I do think Romeo could easily have been a child model without famous parents, look at the Burberry photos, he's a good looking child.

And then there's the photo book that BB did, just looked it up and it says released in 2017, so he would have been 18 probably. I'm sure he was making his own decisions by then unless you think 18 year olds don't make their own decisions.

Anyway, I've said my views. I think the OPs original post was shitty. People bring up their kids how they want to. Hopefully one day we'll have some laws around putting kids online and all kids will be protected. But people like OP and the daily mail will still be able to write shit about them and that will always appeal to a certain type of person.

SleepingSloth · 25/04/2019 16:18
  • write shit about them when they turn 16/18 or whatever the age is where they become fair game in some people's eyes
Roussette · 25/04/2019 16:20

I think sleeping the general consensus of opinion is that posters feel sorry for him. He didn't ask to be exposed to the press for publicity so much, that was his parents fault. Now it's too late, and everything he does will be picked upon by the public and the press because he is 'out there' whether he likes it or not.

HairyToity · 25/04/2019 17:09

We all make mistakes but if the kids were out of the public eye then mistakes would be private. So instead of the photography book, if Brooklyn had done a degree, studied and honed his craft. Then done an apprenticeship perhaps with a fashion studio for a few years, and then released a photography book - it would not be an embarrassment.

I'm glad my many mistakes have not been covered in the Daily Mail.

Cbatothinkofaname · 25/04/2019 18:37

Sleepingsloth: Pretty much everyone here has criticised the parents, not the children themselves. (I’ve said I think the OP is unreasonable to say she dislikes BB because it’s impossible to have a personal opinion about someone you haven’t met.) And people have criticised the photo book and the pop song but that’s fair game. They’ve put those things out for public consumption, and the public consumers will naturally have an opinion.

The point I’ve made several times is that I don’t think there’s a clear cut off at 18, where a child becomes an adult and is suddenly entirely responsible for all their decisions as if they’ve been living in a vacuum until then. BB may have been legally an adult when he published his book, but he’d had 18 years of being subjected to a life played out in the public eye, even his apparent hobby of photography and college course being publicised. If his privacy had been protected until he turned 18, do you honestly think he would have suddenly turned around and said I know, I’m gonna get a book published? Everything those kids do is inevitably a product of the life they’ve been raised in.

I’m still unclear about what your view is though. You seem to believe it’s wrong (as i do) that parents can subject their children to this sort of exposure, yet at the same time trying to claim that they aren’t doing different to other parents (really? Burberry campaign? Releasing a christmas single and video? Posting videos of the kids’ daily activities to a global audience?)
And alongside this you seem to think it’s unfair that anyone criticises the family, even though you seem to disagree with their behaviour.

SleepingSloth · 25/04/2019 20:02

I don't think they are bad parents so I wouldn't criticise them. I disagree with how lots of parents do things but I'll save my criticism for truly bad parents.

ForalltheSaints · 25/04/2019 20:33

It cannot have been easy for him given the amount of publicity his parents have generated, the public knowledge about where the idea for his name came from, and the places that the family have moved about to.

Though at least he is not one of Boris Johnson's children, there is something I would not wish on anyone.

summerof68 · 25/04/2019 20:49

Surely if you put your whole family up as a brand to be made a lot of money out of, then it’s to be expected that the family aren’t going to be liked by everyone. How odd if we were all to robotically bleat about how wonderful they all are. Their kids have been put under the spotlight all their lives, totally understandable that people will have an opinion on the blatant nepotism whenever they grow up. I find celebrity kids ultra annoying when they think they can choose any career they fancy, but without the study and years of training that everyone else has to do......and expect us all to sing their praises at how gifted and brilliant they are.

I’ll save my sympathy for the kids who don’t stand a chance in life, the ones who have to take shit jobs, zero hours contracts etc, so no, no sympathy for the rich celeb kids who choose the easy way and live off the parents huge wealth. There are plenty of other options, they choose not to take them.

summerof68 · 25/04/2019 20:51

when they grow up.

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