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Confused about Weed/Cannabis

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whatacrapusername2306 · 21/04/2019 21:54

Ok, I need to be educated about weed. I have a couple of friends who know their teens are smoking it. It’s causing them a lot of distress understandably. When I was a teen I only knew of resin. A brown lump that was crumbled into a roll up. Nowadays they are talking about trees, grinders etc and just wondered if this is what is called? How much is it, how often do people smoke it etc. Also, I’m sure when I smell it out now it seems much stronger than I remember. As a mum of soon to be teens, I want to be as knowledgeable as possible. Thanks in advance.

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holly873 · 21/04/2019 22:01

Weed is more stronger than hash. Weed today is also more stronger than ten years ago as it's more easily modified to make thcp cpd crystals.

TheMobileSiteMadeMeSignup · 21/04/2019 22:03

Weed is the dried cannabis buds. Grinder use to grind that up to put in the joint. Unsure what a tree is...might just be the actual plant.

Divgirl2 · 21/04/2019 22:04

The resin is scraped off the leaves of the plant and processed to make a block, I think it's cheaper to produce and is less potent than the leave/buds which is what people seem to smoke these days.

The grinders (same as a herb grinder, looks like a small circular tin, or sometimes a bit like a yoyo) grind the buds/leaves into smaller bits before they're added to the joint - probably so it's more evenly spread but I've heard about it releasing oils too.

Disclaimer - I don't now, and never really have, smoked pot. I can't roll a joint. I wouldn't know where to buy pot if you offered me a grand to find some.

RomanyQueen1 · 21/04/2019 22:07

Weed is much stronger than the past. I've heard that some people are spraying it with heroin, now.
I'd rather non of mine smoke it, so far one did. However, I'd prefer weed to resin anyday.
I think weed in general is safer.
As for how much people smoke it varies immensely on the hit they get and how stoned they want to be.
A bit like alcohol and how drunk you want to be.
I smoke the equivalent of a pint a night, it sends me off to sleep lovely.
I've never gone onto harder drugs and function well as I don't have much.
I did too much once and never again.
Price obviously depends on how much you use every time.

blessedmummyov5 · 21/04/2019 22:10

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NorthEndGal · 21/04/2019 22:12

Tree is just another name for weed
Same as flower
The grinder is used to break up the weed, so it burns evenly
Different strains have different terps, so have different effects.
Some weed strains make you calm, some make you feel inspired, some make you giggle, some give a body buzz.
Heated to different temperatures releases different terpenes, and allows different impacts.
The cost is different depending on where you are. Here in Canada it is legal, and sold by either the government, or by licensed producers.
You can get a prescription and get part of the cost reduced, if you need it for medical reasons.

Mrskeats · 21/04/2019 22:13

blessed that post is proving why weed is so dodgy. It’s unreadable and full of nonsense.

holly873 · 21/04/2019 22:14

blessed weed causes so many mental illness problems that they probably contribute to a lot of unaccounted deaths. Don't underestimate how strong weed today is.

FurryDogMother · 21/04/2019 22:18

I'm 59, and - until recently, when I gave up smoking anything - have been a lifetime weed/hash smoker. I'm not really sure about all this 'OMG it's so much stronger nowadays' stuff - unless I was getting really bum deals, it just seemed the same to me. Each batch you get can vary - some make you giggle, some give you the munchies, others make you a bit paranoid (though I think this is largely down to the circumstances you're smoking in). If the recent strains are stronger, it would - to me - just mean it takes fewer joints/spliffs to make you wrecked - and rolling the bloody things gets harder (and funnier!) - so overall consumption isn't really increased. Grinders weren't around when I started smoking - in my teens - we had these things called 'fingers' which we used to crush the weed (we called it grass) before rolling - but yeah, they're round pots with spikes in. It seems harder to get hash (the resin) nowadays - and easier to get homegrown weed. Growing at home has become more prevalent - it's easy to buy seeds online (and also, not illegal until you germinate them), so lots of people are doing it. Feel free to PM me if you have any further questions :)

whatacrapusername2306 · 21/04/2019 22:19

I am surprised, possibly naive, to how many teens smoke cigarettes and weed nowadays. With all the info they are constantly given at school, cigarettes now hidden in shops, plus all the social media posts about health and fitness, I’m amazed that they even bother to start in the first place. It’s obviously just as cool as ever, regardless of all the warnings.

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BlackPrism · 21/04/2019 22:20

Weed has been cultivated to be waaay stronger and less mellow than in the past.
Weed resin is rare, and 'weed' tends to refer just to the plant buds which are ground and rolled into a joint/spliff.
Usage varies, my mates smoke maybe once a week/two weeks like they would have booze but I know some people who have a joint once or twice a day.
Tolerance grows so people can handle more too - I passed out after a couple of drags the first time (called doing a whitey).
Any references to 420, Ganja, salvia, or bud are also weed references.
Rizzlers are the papers you roll them in and a roach is the filter bit at the end.

NorthEndGal · 21/04/2019 22:21

Everyone I know , bar a few, smokes weed occasionally.
Only one of them smokes cigarettes

Treaclesweet · 21/04/2019 22:26

Nobody is spraying weed with heroin Hmm

HarryTheSteppenwolf · 21/04/2019 22:28

Weed = 0 deaths
Alcohol = billions off deaths

There are about 30 deaths a year in the UK related to cannabis. Many, many times more deaths are related to alcohol, certainly, but as there are only 6½ billion people in the world I don't think billions are dying from effects of alcohol.

People who have ever used cannabis are 40% more likely to develop psychosis than people who have never used it. All drugs of abuse (including alcohol) are related to increased risk of psychosis.

I knew a few people in my twenties who were regular cannabis users and went on to develop life-destroying psychosis. I've also had several relatives die from the effects of alcohol. Both are very harmful drugs.

longtimelurkerhelen · 21/04/2019 22:46

@HarryTheSteppenwolf

There are about 30 deaths a year in the UK related to cannabis

Really? Can you point to a source for this info?

Hidingtonothing · 21/04/2019 22:46

You don't really see much resin about anymore, nor what I would have known as 'grass' back in the day. Nowadays it's pretty much all 'weed', which is always one variety or another of skunk which is a super strong strain of cannabis. It's basically the dried buds of the plant and is also known as 'bud' or 'trees'. The buds need to be broken down into little bits to sprinkle into a joint and most people use a grinder for this.

It's everywhere, and lots of people manage to dabble or use it recreationally without too many problems, but it can also wreck lives. There are links with psychiatric illnesses, it can make people very unmotivated and isolated, it necessitates contact with criminals in order to buy it and it's all too easy for young people to run up debt with the dealers and get sucked in to working for gangs.

It can't, imo, be compared with what we knew as cannabis in the 80's/90's when I was growing up, it's a different drug entirely. As parents our best bet is to bring up kids who choose to say no (or at least only say yes occasionally) because they will come into contact with it and it's all too easy to get sucked in to that 'stoner' lifestyle of basically doing sweet FA. Just shout if there's anything else you want answering, my knowledge is, sadly, extensive.

DarthLipgloss · 22/04/2019 09:00

I worked in acute mental health for 3 years, I wouldn't go near it because of the link with psychosis and other mental health problems.

maddy68 · 22/04/2019 09:00

I work with teens. The majority of which smoke weed. They don't drink , they choose this instead. Tbh i would rather they smoked weed than got drunk. No stoner fights or stabs
It's far safer than alcohol

quixote9 · 22/04/2019 09:27

Some of my research as a biologist concerned psychoactive plants, so in some ways I'm an expert (!), but the street scene is moving so fast that in other ways I have no idea what's actually happening now.

Weed refers to the unrefined plant itself. The female buds have the highest concentration of active ingredient. Smoking or eating that is analogous to grinding up coffee beans and drinking coffee. (Eating it avoids the issues associated with smoking, but it's much harder to control dosage since the effect takes longer to be felt.)

There are two main ingredients: THC which produces a high, and various cannabidiols, CBD, which do not produce a high but are actually more useful for pain relief.

THC can now be synthesized. Some of this lab-made THC is of dubious quality, unknown strength, and unknown purity. It's a thing now to add it to weed sometimes to increase the kick. Plus all kinds of other compounds are also sometimes added, on the more has to be better principle.

So, yes, sometimes weed now is a whole different thing than what it used to be.

The THC is concentrated in the resin produced by the female flowers. Hashish was the historical way to concentrate that resin into a solid block. Now chemical solvents can be used for the same purpose. Depending how careful the producer is, there may or may not be more traces of solvents left in the product than you would like.

Taking in pure THC, to continue the coffee analogy, would be like taking pure alkaloid caffeine. In the case of caffeine, you'd probably wind up in the emergency room. In people whose biology makes them susceptible increasingly high concentrations of THC does lead to increased likelihood of psychotic episodes, which is (duh!) very dangerous. For some people, the THC content of hashish is enough to trigger problems. For most people, plain weed does not.

So, anyway, summary: plant (low THC content) -> resin (medium THC) -> chemically refined or synthesized THC (very high content).

SpamChaudFroid · 22/04/2019 09:29

The newer strains are bred to have less CBD (an anti-psychotic) and more THC (the compound that gets you high). I'd say that's why we're seeing more cannabis related psychosis these days. I use CBD oil alongside the bud, for balance. Been fantastic for alleviating meno symptoms.

Cannabis not great for the developing teenage brain and it can trigger (not actually cause) psychosis.

araiwa · 22/04/2019 09:33

I've heard that some people are spraying it with heroin, now.

Hahahahaha complete bollox

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 22/04/2019 09:35

maddy68

I am surprised by your post

I work in MH weed is causing by far more problems than alcohol or any other drug

No stoner fights or stabs - our prisons and MH units have many many prisoners/patients are there because of drugs from gang involvement with to those who have suffered drug psychosis and attacked usual form is stabbing and that many are not serving sentences for murder is just a matter of luck

longtimelurkerhelen · 22/04/2019 09:41

@HarryTheSteppenwolf

Those links don't cite any details at all. Do you think they died as a result of being high and that led to an accident?

It is physically impossible to OD on cannabis.

Branleuse · 22/04/2019 10:02

weed is not stronger now than it used to be, but there just isnt the demand to buy low quality stuff. People do still grow their own on their windowsill if they really want mild stuff

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