To hate “call her out”, “call him out”, “call them out”?

[SuperSara]

There doesn’t seem to be an MN thread that goes by without someone posting that the OP should “...call him out on it...” or similar.

What is wrong with “...challenge him...” ? It’s shorter, actually makes sense, and everyone understands its meaning.

Where did “call out” suddenly come from and why are so many people obsessed with shoehorning it into every thread?

I’m guessing it must be from reality TV or social media or something, I’m guessing(?) as I’ve never heard it in real life conversations or even seen it written, except on here, as far as I can recall.

Fully prepared to be told I’m BU but to me it just sounds totally bizarre and wrong.

Just me?

No me too.
Add to that So.
When did so become necessary at the start of everything?

It is actually from the days when duels were a 'thing' - calling someone out meant challenging them to a duel because you had to do it outside.

Yes, yes, yes! I also find it incredibly irritating. 'Pointed out', 'challenged', 'brought it to their attention' are all perfectly adequate expressions. We'll get told we are BU since use of language changes constantly, but OP, I am in full agreement.

Cringingly American imo!

I think people need "telling"

I’m glad to see that it’s not just me!

YAABVU

I absolutely loathe ‘kicking off’. You frequently see it on here.

The usage is cringingly American, I agree - but the origin is 17th-18th Century European, I promise.

I don't think you're BU but neither are people that say it. Why does it bother you? It's not that important.

Oh no! Not AMERICAN! Good gracious!

Definitely NOT American. I hear it on British programs where the men are arranging duels.

I rather like it. Harkens back to dueling.

But then, I am (shock horror) American. Yes, one of them.

In the same category as “pulling someone up on” something for me, which I always find sounds bit sanctimonious!

It irritates me too. Everyone needs 'calling out' on stuff. When in RL it's something that wouldn't even be noticed.

Mind your own business I say.

Well it depends on how it is done. In MN legend you must cock your head and say “did you mean to be so rude” or it isn’t a proper duel. Obviously if you can add a raised eyebrow and twinkly laugh it is perfection.

It;s all a load of nonsense anyway. Thread about people not moving seats in an aeroplane - someone piles in to say they'd sit on top of anyone who refuses to move for their child. Thread about bad manners in a restaurant - someone says that they would stand on a table with a megaphone and make announcement. Or something equally outrageous.

MN is full of posters who would "call people out" or do all manner of things. Most of the time it's a load of rubbish.

In the same category as “pulling someone up on” something for me, which I always find sounds bit sanctimonious!

I was going to say pretty much this exact same thing!

I also hate the current use of ‘gifted’ everywhere - there is a free cycle type fb group local to me and every bloody post is “item to gift” or “I was gifted item and don’t need it- anyone want it” what’s wrong with give or given ??

I hear it a lot here in the US but not enough to bother me. Now, when it comes to “literally” and “technically” that seem to appear in almost every sentence here, they both really irritate me. Especially as “literally” is always “lidderalee” here.

I've two I hate but seem to be everywhere.

Re: Periods

I'm due on. Or, I'm on my period.

To me it sounds like you're talking about a dog in heat.

I say

I'm due my period/My period is due.

I'm having my period.

Re: Annoyance

It boils my piss. (horrible imagery for me with that one and makes me want to vomit half the time).

I hate the “call out” phrase because it assumes a position of superiority - as if you must be right and the other person is wrong and you absolutely have to let them know the error of their ways. Grrr.

I hate this too. I also absolutely detest all the use of "turned around and said". Everyone everywhere seems to be doing a lot of turning around before they speak!

I think people need "telling"smile

That irritates me as much as:

The ironing needs doing. I say 'The ironing needs to be done'.

The car needs washing. I say 'The car needs to be washed'.

I guess it's colloquial. Not the Queen's English at any rate!

Couldn't agree more, OP.

It is actually from the days when duels were a 'thing' - calling someone out meant challenging them to a duel because you had to do it outside

Oooh, I never knew that! I love hearing about the origins of phrases like this.