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To ask how to sort out this situation with DD and her work

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Clairesbalding · 20/04/2019 18:44

DD has just turned 16 and has been desperate to get a little part time job. The local store in the next village was advertising for casual staff so she sent a lovely, polite message and the owner sent her an equally lovely message asking her to pop and see her.
As DD was very unsure and young I went along with her. The owner was lovely, very smiley and friendly and assured me that DD would be treated well, not expected to carry heavy items and could work as many hours as she felt comfortable with bearing in mind she has her GCSEs coming up.

All great you would think, DD went to work the following morning and worked 9-3. I picked her up and she was nearly in tears. She’d not been given a break at all, hadn’t even had a drink of water. She’d been expected to carry shelving, clean, mop, sweep, stack shelves, full freezers etc and if she stopped for a minute the owner told her off.
She got paid £25 cash in hand which didn’t quite work out at the 4.20 an hour she’d been promised. I was torn between telling her not to go back but at the same time I felt she needed to give it a little longer and see if she’d settle in.
She was asked to work 2 hours a few days later and again It was the same heavy, donkey work. She wasn’t paid.

DD didn’t hear anything else until 2 weeks later when she got a text asking her to work 4.5 hours, 2 evenings. Bear in mind the texts are short and sharp ‘can you work’ and that’s all, no hello, please or thank you etc. The owners manner has changed dramatically since I met her but I said to DD just ignore that - take the hours you want etc.
DD went to work, same sort of cleaning, stacking etc. Fine it’s shop work, so that’s to be expected.

DD is now owed 2 evenings, plus the 2 hours from 2 weeks before,. Yesterday came and went - no pay. Owner text last night to ask if DD could work this evening, yes said DD but please can you confirm that I’ll be paid tomorrow for the hours I’m owed. No reply from owner.

DD has gone to work this evening and text me within 10 minutes of being there - the owner went up to her and said ‘I don’t like people asking about wages - don’t do it again’ and pointed her finger in her face!!

I went to go over and confront the owner and pick up DD whilst ensuring she was paid every penny she is owed but DD doesn’t want to cause a scene and would rather finish her shift tonight then quit tomorrow.

If DD doesn’t not get paid the correct amount how can I go about making sure she is paid? She has not been officially taken on I don’t think and it’s all cash in hand. I’m so bloody annoyed but want to keep my cool. It’s a small village and she’s the type to bad mouth people I think (she puts everything on the shop FB page).

I’m not great at saying the right thing but I want to go over an make sure DD gets paid and make sure the owner knows she’s an appalling employer. I’d love some advice please?

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Graphista · 20/04/2019 22:45

I agree I think it highly likely this person is fiddling across the board!

Vat, income tax, NI plus health and safety breaches all very likely.

I'd be dropping her right in it!

Tell the truth and shame the devil!

justasking111 · 20/04/2019 22:53

She is legally entitled to a break. I would kick up a fuss and insist on the pay. Your DD has learnt a valuable lesson here re: employers. I would also threaten HMRC. My son at 16 and colleagues had the correct breaks.

www.gov.uk/rest-breaks-work/young-workers

AvengersAssemble · 20/04/2019 23:04

I would report her to HMRC, and speak to The National Minimum Wage Team, ACAS and everyone else in Authority. The CF needs doing for this.

Do not back down, make a point in telling her what she has done is illegal and you are taking it further. Your DD has not had any H&S Manual Handling training or anything.

HomeMadeMadness · 20/04/2019 23:29

I would say some of your complaints are very very reasonable (not being paid! no Break in 6 hours) and some unreasonable (of course the 16 year old is going to do the donkey work and I don't think a text asking you to work needs to be polite).

I would personally advise DD never to go back since she wasn't paid properly. better for her to have a normal first experience of a job - it might be donkey work but you'll get a break and get paid for it!

SandyY2K · 21/04/2019 01:00

She wouldn't be paying tax, ad she has a tax free allowance and wouldn't have exhausted that yet.

I am also dealing with a situation for my 16 yo DD.... her employer says she's not entitled to holiday pay. The law says otherwise and I'm making sure she gets what she's entitled to.

I hate employers taking advantage of young people.

Ated · 21/04/2019 12:36

If you don't have a p45 or have registered with HMRC as self-employed the shop should deduct the 30% and pay it to the taxman. The girl then has to contact the taxman for any rebates.

Grumpasaurous · 21/04/2019 12:50

She definitely shouldn’t be working past 7pm and she’s been diddled out of 15p per hour according to gov.uk

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