To find ‘jokes’ about Maddie McCann upsetting?

[Helendee]

I saw a clip of Frankie Boyle demonstrating his sense of ‘humour’ by making what I find to be shocking jokes about Maddie.
The audience seemed to find it hilarious but I find it crass and distressing.
Please tell me I am not alone!

I can't imagine on what planet a joke about MM would be ok

Really? The case became internationally famous with many different aspects. The role of the media, press intrusion, conspiracy theories, etc etc. All of those things could be joked about in the context of a joke about MM, without the joke really being about McCann.

Lifecraft
That's my line though. So i wouldn't laugh at that. I certainly wouldnt advocate censorship. Kay?

Really? The case became internationally famous with many different aspects. The role of the media, press intrusion, conspiracy theories, etc etc. All of those things could be joked about in the context of a joke about MM, without the joke really being about McCann.

Exactly right.

A: You should never joke about the holocaust
B: Quite right, my granddad died in a concentration camp
A: Oh, I'm so sorry.
B: Yes...he was a Nazi guard and fell out of the watchtower.
A: (bursts out laughing)

You see...it's a holocaust joke, but the butt of the joke is the idiotic Nazi.

I don't understand the posters arguing against censorship because I don't recall anyone on the thread arguing for censorship in the first place.

Look, I loath lowest common denominator dated comedy like Manning, Davidson and Boyle and think less of the the people who get a cheap laugh out of anyone who dares not to be a 'normal' white man like them. But I never said they should be censored. They should ashamed of themselves, as should their witless fans, but no one has said they should censored. So that particular straw man can be dispensed with.

BoneyBackJefferson, thats what I mean. Why should the OP get told off about a shortened name when nobody really knows whether her name was shortened (hence my links)

callmeadoctor

Why should the OP get told off about a shortened name when nobody really knows whether her name was shortened

For the same reason that the OP is allowed to be offended by the "jokes"

Im lost now I have no idea about offensiveness versus free speech versus shortened names

call me it's fair to say we've been round the houses a bit!

I actually worry about the world now, we will literally all stop talking to each other by the end of all this!

Its all a bit bonkers (and thats without going into gender matters

callmeadoctor

Why are you lost? Its still about people being offended.

Seems to me that people (in most cases) are just looking for something to be offended about.

Boney, because we will all be so frightened of offending somebody that we will stop talking.

Frankie Boyle seems to me like the type of class clown who would've made snidey nasty "hilarious" remarks about the class victim to curry favour with the class bullies.

Some of his Mock the Week stuff was very topical and quick witted but a lot of his stuff just makes me think he has a nasty streak half a mile wide. Jimmy Carr and Ricky Gervais give off mean vibes as well.

I don't think any of it should be censored (because where do you stop) but I do automatically turn the telly over if I see them.

The only thing I find offensive is the money and attention given to this loathsome pair while very little support has been given to parents and families whose children have disappeared in the same time. I find Frankie Boyle incredibly astute and someone who actually pricks pompous and hypocritical people right into the centre of their overblown hypocritical hyperboles.

I don't think any of it should be censored (because where do you stop) but I do automatically turn the telly over if I see them

You see, that's where you're going wrong. What you have to do is see something is on telly, say The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, turn it on, be appalled, carry on watching, be more appalled, and then come on MN the next day and say "it was dreadful, I watched Texas Chainsaw Massacre and there were all these people being massacred by chainsaws in Texas. I found it very upsetting."

The everybody piles in to say films like this are a disgrace, and there's a line, and chainsaw massacres cross that line.

Grumpelstilskin why do you feel the parents are a "loathsome pair"? OP, fully agree with you. FB seems to have become famous by getting negative attention. Maybe to him, fame and fortune is more important than decency and morals. Wonder how his relatives feel?

I'm still assuming @TheNavigator hasn't actually seen frankie Boyle as the constant comparisons to Davidson and Manning are just plainly wrong 🤷🏻‍♀️

Of course I’ve seen Frankie Boyle, he is hardly niche. Mainstream misogyny is everywhere sadly, he is just one representative of an endemic over representation of unfunny white men punching down for a cheap laugh and people lapping it up.

callmeadoctor

some people already are

Some jokes are in poor taste, granted. But 'upsetting' and 'distressing' is a bit of an overreaction.

At least Ricky Gervais is genuinely prepared to offend anyone. If he makes a truly sick joke it is easy to laugh because any of us could be next.

Frankie Boyle is a PC bootlicker though, which makes it weird that he has got so much spit and fire for the hilarious matter of Jimmy Saville and Madeleine Mccann, or ripping apart Rebecca Adlington on TV.

an endemic over representation of unfunny white men punching down for a cheap laugh and people lapping it up.

Do you think when you make negative comments about groups of people you could make your point without grouping people by skin colour? Some of us feel quite unsafe around racist rhetoric and baiting of all kinds.

Not trying to censor you, but would appreciate your consideration in this.

I see ‘punching down’ is the new MN buzzword.

Are you a parent?

Does the idea they would have "never considered" it their fault really seem likely to you?