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Original poster

To ask you to share examples/scenarios of women being handmaidens?

44 replies

PeterParkersSpider · 15/04/2019 20:21

I'll start.

Excusing all of exh's sexist attitudes and abusive behaviours - my firsthand personal experience.

Women who defend men at every angle. "Not all men."... "Women also do it."

Please do share. I feel most women need a right proper education on this. Women are the worst misogynists IMHO, and I feel that that is solely due to ignorance/indoctrination, and this needs to change.

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SmileEachDay · 15/04/2019 20:23

A thread encouraging the tearing down of women is not sisterly.

It’s not what feminists do.

HBStowe · 15/04/2019 20:26

Women are the worst misogynists IMHO

Absolutely hilarious. At least you’re doing your best to prove your own maxim, OP.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 15/04/2019 20:29

Women are the worst misogynists IMH

Nah

I dont reckon this is right

LDNmumof3 · 15/04/2019 20:33

To ask you to share examples/scenarios of women being handmaidens?

Er, OK:

Women are the worst misogynists IMHO

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PeterParkersSpider · 15/04/2019 20:39

Women being aware of their role in sexism is now a bad thing?

Making women aware of this is tearing them down?

And "not what feminists do". Says who?

Please do enlighten me on how we might better educate every single women on this? Personal responsibility lies somewhere surely?

Women have to take some personal responsibility in erradicating misogyny, because 1)they play a part in it. 2)men don't seem to be doing fuck all about it.

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Absolutepowercorrupts · 15/04/2019 20:43

Is this a new rule of misogyny?
Men are doing fuck all about misogyny so women have to step up and -take the blame fix it

Sparklesocks · 15/04/2019 20:45

But a lot of women who practice misogyny do so because it’s been internalised from years of indoctrination

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PeterParkersSpider · 15/04/2019 20:47

Yes, sadly. If men won't fix it, then who bloody well will?

And the fact that a large proportion of women excuse and blindside it does not make it any easier.

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HBStowe · 15/04/2019 20:47

Stop being so fucking goady. Women are the worst misogynists in your humble opinion? So it’s the fault of women that 1/4 of us will be raped or sexually assaulted at some point in our lives? It’s the fault of women that we’re consistently paid less? You think it’s more of a problem that women excuse the shitty behaviour of men than that men behave in shitty ways?

You come on here using the foul, misogynistic term ‘handmaiden’ and ask for women to share stories of how they blame other women for the behaviour of men, and you think you are somehow in a position to be educating women about misogyny?

Get a fucking clue.

BarrenFieldofFucks · 15/04/2019 20:48

Are you the same OP as the tax/gender pay gap thread? Same writing style. And perhaps the 'mums/feminism/Facebook' one?

If so, you've got a right bee in your bonnet right now haven't you.

Fwiw, I agree, some women can be women's worst enemy. Some, of course. The 'cool girl' article was good for this.

Sparklesocks · 15/04/2019 20:48

What are you trying to get from this thread? Just examples of women being shitty? Why? What will it achieve?

Daffopill · 15/04/2019 20:49

Men are the worst misogynists - ridiculous to suggest otherwise.

Daffopill · 15/04/2019 20:49

Men are the worst misogynists - ridiculous to suggest otherwise.

HBStowe · 15/04/2019 20:50

This has sleazy, cheap, gutter trawling Daily Mail journo written all over it, come to think of it.

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PeterParkersSpider · 15/04/2019 20:51

But a lot of women who practice misogyny do so because it’s been internalised from years of indoctrination

Fair point. All the more reason why there needs to be greater awareness. For men AND women.

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AllTheWhoresOfMalta · 15/04/2019 20:52

Whether or not I agree with the OPs stance I’m not entirely sure BUT I will say I have seen some vile misogyny in my life and it didn’t all come from men. Worst example was when my sexual abusers wife asked me what I had been thinking, letting him use me for sex. I was between the ages of 13 and 21 for context: he was 20 years older. I did tell her to her face that that was the most internalised misogyny I had ever seen expressed. She didn’t agree 🤷🏼‍♀️

Snog · 15/04/2019 20:52

There is a book on this subject by Margaret Atwood I think

Snog · 15/04/2019 20:53

She says it best

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PeterParkersSpider · 15/04/2019 20:54

No, I'm not a poster from previous thread mentioned. Nor am I a DM thread.

I am a radfem, however. And an adult human female.

And to pp, wrt rape and sexual assault, I lost my virginity through rape.

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SmileEachDay · 15/04/2019 20:55

This is not about “raising awareness” - it’s an invitation to share examples of women “being handmaidens”

How does that help anything?

How does it help free women as a class from oppression by men as a class?

How does it support women?

How does your use of language add anything to a conversation about misogyny?

ThereWillBeAdequateFood · 15/04/2019 20:55

I loath the word handmaiden.

The thread would come across better with out its use.

Original poster
PeterParkersSpider · 15/04/2019 20:55

A DM journo ffs

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HBStowe · 15/04/2019 20:57

You can usually rely on radfems to dole out misogyny in spadefuls. Why blame men for their sexism when you can go for the low-hanging fruit of blaming other women for not being as good at feminism as them?

SemperIdem · 15/04/2019 20:58

2/10

Nice try

SmileEachDay · 15/04/2019 20:59

Not all radfems, HB. I count myself as one.