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To ask you to share examples/scenarios of women being handmaidens?

44 replies

PeterParkersSpider · 15/04/2019 20:21

I'll start.

Excusing all of exh's sexist attitudes and abusive behaviours - my firsthand personal experience.

Women who defend men at every angle. "Not all men."... "Women also do it."

Please do share. I feel most women need a right proper education on this. Women are the worst misogynists IMHO, and I feel that that is solely due to ignorance/indoctrination, and this needs to change.

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tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 15/04/2019 20:59

There are some very peculiar threads popping up of late claiming to be discussing feminism but being very not feminist Confused.

Whilst there are some very valid points in this one it just seems a bit, well, fighty?

PeterParkersSpider · 15/04/2019 20:59

Perhaps the wording of the title is wrong...

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Hedgehogblues · 15/04/2019 21:01

We all capitulate to patriarchy in some ways to enable us to survive it.

Also calling women handmaidens in this context is pretty darn misogynistic in itself

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 15/04/2019 21:02

Perhaps the wording of the title is wrong

Maybe peter

I am sorry about the rape ...dreadful thing to happen to you Flowers

fc301 · 15/04/2019 21:04

OP you are getting your arse handed to you in a plate by MN ... & rightly so.

Your title AND your OP offends me.

SmileEachDay · 15/04/2019 21:05

Shit OP - cross posted. I’m sorry you were raped. It’s a depressingly common thing, isn’t it? Sad

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 15/04/2019 21:07

You can usually rely on radfems to dole out misogyny in spadefuls

I dont reckon thats right either

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 15/04/2019 21:12

Peter I'm sorry I didn't RTFT properly. I'm sorry for what happened to you.

So agree that title perhaps clumsily worded. However much of the content from you and others show how common so much of this shit continues to be.

As I mentioned earlier there will be plenty who will pile on to tell us miserable feminazis that we have equality, plenty of women hit men, etc. > hands hard hats round

PeterParkersSpider · 15/04/2019 21:17

Thank you tellme finally someone who gets where I'm coming from.

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Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 15/04/2019 21:18

Thank you tellme finally someone who gets where I'm coming from

Oh for gods sake

SmileEachDay · 15/04/2019 21:21

I don’t think encouraging trial by public forum women deemed “handmaidens” is the way to sort it. It’s all a bit “burn the witch”

Challenge it where you see it. Start threads about how you live as a feminist. Start a discussion about how to deal with internalised misogyny. Or about how liberal feminism can sometimes forget to centre women. Or whatever. But not this.

GregoryPeckingDuck · 15/04/2019 21:25

I take it you haven’t read the book? The whole point of the book was that the handmaidens (with the occasional exception) didn’t actually want to serve the men. Even the comparatively privileged wives of commanders started turning away when they realised that the cost of their privilege was too great. The point of the book wasn’t women upholding the patriarchy. It was women being so powerless (against men or against the treat of a misogynistic god) that they were coerced into support the patriarchy.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 15/04/2019 21:28

I'm not mad about the word 'handmaiden'. In general women are just trying to survive as best they can.

MolyHolyGuacamole · 15/04/2019 21:30

OP the word I use to describe these women is 'pick me'. It's women who put other women down for the approval of men.

'Pick me ass bitch' is the most succinct description of these women.

SmileEachDay · 15/04/2019 21:33

Yep, always good to call other women “bitch”.

AFistfulofDolores1 · 15/04/2019 21:33

I'm sorry about what happened to you, but the black and white thinking in your OP is simplistic. Some men are worth defending some of the time; others are not. Some women are worth defending some of the time; others are not.

fc301 · 15/04/2019 21:34

You're describing other women as 'ass bitches'?! Yeah we haven't come very far have we. FFS.

HelloMonday · 15/04/2019 22:08

Urghhh!
Your writing style is difficult to read @OP.
Helps lose your point completely. It's an 'unnecessary call for arms'. The wrong approach take here in almost every way.

morefoolyou · 15/04/2019 23:56

Biscuit🙄🤦🏻‍♀️

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