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Payrise · 14/04/2019 07:07

I've recently left a job after 8 years.

In those 8 years my pay rose just less than £2000, due to company wide pay rises but sometimes I'd get a little extra (ie the company got 2% but I got 5). I was rewarded in other ways - I was supported through a professional qualification - but not through promotion. This was working for a massive, national company that you would have heard of.

I'm just curious to know how much your pay has increased if you been there a similar length of time, or even less.

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GabsAlot · 14/04/2019 10:31

thats fair enough i th8ink it depends on the job/prospects doesnt it

SimplyPut · 14/04/2019 10:36

Annual increase of 2% plus £5,800 increase following promotion in the first 4yrs.
Second promotion in the 5th yr gave a further £16k increase with an improved annual increase of 6% over five years.
I appreciate the incentive to retain good staff.
So just over a 25k increase pre deductions in six years.

Notcool1984 · 14/04/2019 10:38

In five years, 8k

BackOnceAgainWithABurnerEmail · 14/04/2019 10:43

Really depends on the sector. Central civil service pay freeze and no increments (ie it’s not like teaching where you still get spin points etc). We had 5 years at 0% and for the last 4 years got 1% and this year 1.5% and a non-consolidated payment of £300.

I have had a couple of bonuses which adds an extra £500-£1000.

I think it’s a real term pay cut as it’s so far behind inflation.

If you want to get paid more you have to get promoted. But then you lose 1.5days holidays and your sick pay entitlement halves so you have to weigh it up.

Quandary2018 · 14/04/2019 10:45

In five years my salary has increased by £500 (no I’m not missing any zeros, that’s it)
It’s ridiculous, because of inflation it’s actually a pay cut but I’m a single parent with no support and can not find any other work in my sector that would fit around the kids so I’m stuck earning just above minimum wage

HelloCanYouHearMe · 14/04/2019 10:45

In 3 years ive had about £2k, but no promotion. Thats despite developing a small team into a large 'department' and having a lot of responsibility.

The company I work for likes to throw as much as they can at their employees for very little reward/recognition and the talent is now starting to vote with their feet. If they ptomoted me, their structure and pay scale means i'd be in line for a £10k raise - which is probably why they won't promote and says a lot about the senior management and board.

I'm hoping I won't be there for much longer

SardineJam · 14/04/2019 10:49

At my previous company, I was there for 10 years. I started on 19,5 k in 2008 and left on 41k in 2018 - two promotions in that time but no other benefits eg. no professional development and they only introduced pensions when workplace pensions became mandatory!

TheBitchOfTheVicar · 14/04/2019 10:52

As a teacher, my salary doubled in the first 10 or so years. But now I am at the top of the upper pay scale, that's it - unless I get a TLR (responsibility/promotion point) it's never going to happen

GnomeDePlume · 14/04/2019 10:54

I did ask for a pay rise, got promised but then realised that all he did was make promises. Lost all respect for him when I happened to hear him boasting to his boss that he had got people to take on new responsibilities but hadn't put the promised pay rises into place.

On the plus side he got told to leave a few months later (for many reasons). Nobody shed a year.

ToManderleyAgain · 14/04/2019 10:55

Rather than thinking in terms of absolute values, try considering percentage increases year on year. In eight years I think your £2k increase would be lower than inflationary increases. If I were you I would be requesting a pay increase armed with that information.

Payrise · 14/04/2019 10:57

Thank you for all of your replies. I wasn't expecting so many. I worked for a large PLC in the construction industry.

There's been no option for a promotion as they are always kept hush-hush so the person they want to get it, does. This is despite me being a high performer and receiving high praise. I've taken on more and more responsibilities in the past, and I've been given nothing extra because I thought that's just how things worked. Maybe I should have been more assertive.

Even after every completed level of my qualification, I wasn't offered anything extra and was told to just be grateful that the company was funding it. When I left, I was the most qualified in the team and still in the same entry-level position. Should I have stayed, I wouldn't have been promoted, instead my director was offering me another qualification.

My new job has been a 59% increase. I knew I was underpaid, but I hadn't really sat and thought just how rubbish my previous job was until this opportunity presented itself!

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Nofunkingworriesmate · 14/04/2019 10:58

I'm a teacher due to government cuts it ha been slashed ( as have my colleagues) by 3 k now applying for same job at just over half the salary . I will be living in London on 16k child care will be more each month than I earn . Job expectation are steadily increasing

lemonjam · 14/04/2019 11:01

My pay has gone up by the pro rata equivalent of 4.5k in six years, also have got a qualification in that time.

Bluesheep8 · 14/04/2019 11:09

I was with the same company for 8 years. I was a rep and covered one county when I started. By the time I left, I was covering 4 counties and my salary was exactly the same.

RubyTrees · 14/04/2019 11:12

Everyone who hasn't had a pay rise in years - enter your current salary and the year you first received it here:
www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy/inflation/inflation-calculator

It can be quite shocking to see how your spending power has been eroded over the years due to the lack of pay rises.

PS: Just noticed this on that site:
"Use our inflation calculator to check how prices in the UK have changed over time, from 1209 to 2018." Grin

PurpleFlower1983 · 14/04/2019 11:14

Teaching, 20k rise in 10 years. In 8 years it was about 18k x

PurpleFlower1983 · 14/04/2019 11:15

That is through going up the pay scale and a middle management position though.

VampireSlayer19 · 14/04/2019 11:21

I am surprised in the construction industry you were not able to progress more- most companies pay for qualifications which can be £1000s so take that into account and most like to progress people in house maybe was just a bad company?

I started in the industry 5 years ago and am earning over £10k more than started with company car.

Good thing about the construction industry is can move around easily especially if you have professional qualifications.

Tbh if any company or industry are not actively helping grow your career it’s either a bad company or your not actively asking how you can progress and what is required.

emma8t4 · 14/04/2019 11:24

I’m also in construction, after returning to work following maternity leave 8 years ago my pay has nearly trebled. In that time I have also completed a professional qualification and moved jobs 3 times. The first move following qualification (3years after returning to work) my pay rose by 33% moving from a big plc for exactly the same reasons as you.

Been with my current company over 2 years and my pay has gone up 50% since starting ,with pay rises and promotions, smaller privately owned company.

Good luck

LakieLady · 14/04/2019 11:35

I can't remember the salary I was on when I joined.

The organisation I work for has given 3 pay awards in the 12 years I've worked for them: 0.5%, 1% and 2.5%. I was at the top of the scale for my previous post, and the f/t salary was a princely £23,600. I doubt if my salary went up more than £1k over that period.

I was on the old salary scales, too. People who joined after about 2009/10 are on a lower pay scale, the max is around £21,500. They are (unsurprisingly) starting to have a problem with recruitment and retention, which I suspect might be one of the reasons we got 2.5% from April.

Because all the projects that bring in money are funded by local government or health, austerity has hit us very hard. Two of the biggest projects have been cut massively, one by 66% and one by 30%. It's a miracle we still have jobs at all, tbh.

jay55 · 14/04/2019 11:38

Well done for finding a better position Payrise, hope you don't go unappreciated this time.

Judystilldreamsofhorses · 14/04/2019 11:43

No payrise since 2016, and currently in industrial action because of it. We tend to do the majority of grocery shopping online, and it seems like the prices hop up every month.

pinkcardi · 14/04/2019 12:02

Professional services. Started at £33k 8.5 yrs ago, left at £71k recently. Bonus have ranged from £1-7k

bebeboeuf · 14/04/2019 12:06

Construction here too and pay increases fast in my experience.
Even faster by moving companies.

FizzyPink · 14/04/2019 12:09

I’m curious to know in the cases where posters have had none or very minimal increases, have you asked for pay rises in that time? I appreciate some jobs are banded so no option to do this but Martin Lewis asked on Twitter a few days ago how many people had asked for a pay increase in their life and I was shocked to see almost 50% never had. I just see it as a standard thing to do once you’ve been at a company for a year and then every appraisal after that.
I started my first role after uni on £17,000 and 6 years later through internal promotions and moving jobs several times I’m on £50,000 plus around another £20k in bonus but I guarantee I’d not be earning nearly as much if I’d stayed in the first or second jobs I took.

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