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Original poster

To think no it's not my business what does on in our buy to let

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Shapesandshops · 08/04/2019 18:21

Sorry need opinions please.

Hubby is mainly in charge of this but I just wanted to canvas opinions.

We are in the lucky position of owning a couple of buy to lets. Mainly they run themselves really and I have nothing to do with them.

We were recently able to buy a new home and rent our old one out. As we used to live there I feel some sense of responsibility to my old neighbours but no real friendships. The letting agent has found us Tennant's and we are happy. Hubby deals with the letting agent. I have been receiving messages from old neighbours telling me the new tennants are anti social and they have had to call the police etc. Hubby says to ignore, block if necessary and tell them to get in touch with the letting agent as necessary. New tennants have a good credit history and paid first month's rent fine.

Am I being unreasonable to want nothing to do with it? Ie we have moved out of the area, don't intent to return as kids grown up etc. At the end of the day, if they are not in breach of our contract I mainly agree with hubby that it's none of our business and do not feel we should serve notice because our old neighbours can't get on with the new ones.

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DisplayPurposesOnly · 08/04/2019 18:26

Yes.

PlainSpeakingStraightTalking · 08/04/2019 18:28

new tennants are anti social and they have had to call the police etc.

if they are not in breach of our contract I mainly agree with hubby that it's none of our business

Isnt anti social behaviour illegal, and therefore in breach of tenancy agreements (as a rule)?

Define anti social - yelling, screaming at each other/having a cannabis farm in the loft/obstructing others driveways ? There are levels of 'anti social' and it must be pretty bad for the police to be called in

superram · 08/04/2019 18:29

I would want to know if people living in my house were doing something illegal. Why were the police called-what happened?

Omzlas · 08/04/2019 18:30

How are they bring antisocial? Doesn't this breach their T&Cs?

theWarOnPeace · 08/04/2019 18:31

If they’re being anti social, causing trouble, needing police to be called then I would say that yes, you need to address it. Morally and for the sake of all the people everywhere living alongside neighbours from hell - please be responsible and chuck them out. The only way this type will change their ways, is by being unable to get away with it.

PickAChew · 08/04/2019 18:32

How are they being antisocial? Talking in their garden or fighting and leaving messes. If the latter, how do you know they're not trashing your house?

DonPablo · 08/04/2019 18:33

You'll want to know if the council get involved and serve notices for noise nuisance or something because you have to declare anything like that if you come to sell.

And with being a landlord come responsibility. The police may well contact you.

JustAWaferThinMint · 08/04/2019 18:33

Our antisocial tenants also trashed the place as well as upsetting the neighbours. But sure, ignore away.

caughtinanet · 08/04/2019 18:33

I can see why the neighbours have contacted you given that they know you, if they didn't they would have to go through the agents. Do the agents know now?

Do you not want to know if the tenants might be damaging your home? I'd be straight onto the agents myself

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Shapesandshops · 08/04/2019 18:34

I don't want to go into too much detail as could be outing but they have been parking so that they are blocking neighbours in (letting agent has spoken to them, they said they would stop) but also making 'noise at unsocial times' apparently there's been quite a bit of general chat outside the house after half ten , but also a couple of big rows so police were called. Letting agent told hubby is was just moving in noise, they say it was an aggressive fight now folks feeling unsafe. I'm inclined to think look they've just moved in, give them a chance.

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Aquamarine1029 · 08/04/2019 18:34

Please don't be one of those owners who refuse to stand up for their decent tenants. Imagine if it were your life being ruined by arsehole, shit neighbours.

fikel · 08/04/2019 18:37

Also own properties that rent out and of course it’s our responsibility to make sure the tenants aren’t behaving in a manner that is affecting not only the property but the neighbours. Would you like living next door if it was happening to you?
It’s not just about collecting rent at the end of the month

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Shapesandshops · 08/04/2019 18:37

It's all a bit 'he said she said ' tbh and as I am not there I don't know which bit is true and which isn't, really Sad

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happinessischocolate · 08/04/2019 18:38

I agree with a pp. the type of people who are antisocial and get the police called on them are the same ones who trash houses.

But yeah just ignore it, but don't say you weren't warned when they stop paying the rent and refuse to leave 👍🏻

IncrediblySadToo · 08/04/2019 18:38

It’s not a choice to ‘not to get involved’ - you OWN this property, of course you have a responsibility for what goes on.

Secondly, how do you imagine they’re treating the house?

You need to find out exactly what’s going on and get it sorted.

caughtinanet · 08/04/2019 18:38

I don't know where you live but you seem to be very blase about the police being called, in my street that would be a major thing and would not be confused with loud chatting at 10.30.

Someone here isn't telling the whole story

MitziK · 08/04/2019 18:38

You'll be pretty pissed off if, during one of those rows, one of the tenants decides to smash the place up, as a number of abusers do - or they start drug dealing and you only find out after the Police have rammed the doors and turned the place upside down.

DoneLikeAKipper · 08/04/2019 18:40

Is this a reverse?

If not, then if your neighbours go to the council and start a ‘dispute process’, that will be brought up if and when you want to sell the house. I’d also say that if they are disrespectful to your neighbours, don’t expect them to respect your house. Don’t expect sympathy when they move out and you’re left with £££ in repairs/unpaid bills, it would be your chickens coming home to roost.

Haggisfish · 08/04/2019 18:40

God I wished landlords would evict antisocial tenants more often. I’d be bloody pleased the neighbours told me this was happening and give the tenants their notice.

HollowTalk · 08/04/2019 18:40

You have responsibilities as a landlord. If you have an agent dealing with it, make sure it's dealt with properly. It's very unfair on your old neighbours if they are having to put up with anti-social behaviour. It's also unfair on your tenants if your neighbours are being unreasonable - but think about it - they weren't unreasonable with you. Why would they suddenly start to be unreasonable with the tenants?

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Shapesandshops · 08/04/2019 18:41

To be clear one neighbour who shares a wa with them called the police about so called aggressive fights. I think she's a bit of a drama llama really, but she is the one who shares the flank wall with them. Others have complained about the parking and the noise after half ten. Of course I don't want our place to be trashed!!! Letting agent has been in and done a complete check filling the police call and tell hubby everything is fine so I don't know what to think tbh

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viques · 08/04/2019 18:42

Do what you want OP, but don't come whining on here when your anti social tenants decide to stop paying their rent.

ScreamingValenta · 08/04/2019 18:43

How would you feel if you were the ones left in your street and your neighbours had rented their house to people who made a racket and had the police turning up?

Chocolateisfab · 08/04/2019 18:43

At the very least you would be wise to have a check of your property. If they have no respect for where they live they may not have any for what they live in either...

Lovewinemorethanhusband · 08/04/2019 18:43

I don't have a house I rent out but we left our rental around 5 months ago and put neighbours were a nightmare complaining about absolutely everyone , she has a noise complaint and anti socal bullying behaviour against the neighbours the other side and complained about us also, I then started to compain back to her every time they made to much noise and she stopped with me but she's making the new tenants life hell in the house as well constantly complaining about every little noise and if they are in the garden after 8pm, I've spoken to the new tenants and also the letting agents know what it was like living there so she doesn't get kicked out because of moany neighbour