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To think no it's not my business what does on in our buy to let

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Shapesandshops · 08/04/2019 18:21

Sorry need opinions please.

Hubby is mainly in charge of this but I just wanted to canvas opinions.

We are in the lucky position of owning a couple of buy to lets. Mainly they run themselves really and I have nothing to do with them.

We were recently able to buy a new home and rent our old one out. As we used to live there I feel some sense of responsibility to my old neighbours but no real friendships. The letting agent has found us Tennant's and we are happy. Hubby deals with the letting agent. I have been receiving messages from old neighbours telling me the new tennants are anti social and they have had to call the police etc. Hubby says to ignore, block if necessary and tell them to get in touch with the letting agent as necessary. New tennants have a good credit history and paid first month's rent fine.

Am I being unreasonable to want nothing to do with it? Ie we have moved out of the area, don't intent to return as kids grown up etc. At the end of the day, if they are not in breach of our contract I mainly agree with hubby that it's none of our business and do not feel we should serve notice because our old neighbours can't get on with the new ones.

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Shapesandshops · 08/04/2019 18:44

Ok so what do I do??? New tennants have signed a one year fixed term contract hubby says. If we serve notice we stand to lose £££. Hubby says everything is conjecture and cant be proven???

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RedHelenB · 08/04/2019 18:50

It is your circus and it is your monkeys. YABU.

Shapesandshops · 08/04/2019 18:51

Anyway I'm not convinced they are actually anti social... More like I know that folk on that road are snobby. So I don't know what to think, hences why id rather have nothing to do with it.

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Aquamarine1029 · 08/04/2019 18:52

First thing I would do is put up cctv on the outside of your property. I would also ask the neighbours who are complaining to video record events as much as possible so you can see what's going on for yourself. How close do you live to the property?

Shapesandshops · 08/04/2019 18:54

We live about 150 miles away now, but often abroad so not sure that would be practical

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Shapesandshops · 08/04/2019 19:01

Well anyway heigh ho thank you for all replies I think I know what to do - nowt. I think a few teething troubles got the wind up me. It's up to the letting agent to sort it and I'll direct folk to them.

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DoneLikeAKipper · 08/04/2019 19:02

What advice are you actually looking for? You evidently don’t want to know or care whether your tenants are being anti-social twats or not, so what exactly are you asking? How to ignore people possibly making valid complaints about people renting your home? Why not write them a letter:

‘Dear Snobby Doris,

I’m sorry you’re apparently having to listen to your own personal version of the Jeremy Kyle show every day, but look on the positive side - you can get rid of your tv and just enjoy some ready made entertainment! Me and hubby are actually doing you a favour really. Now please stop bothering us/the letting agents as we’re trying to enjoy our trip to Benidorm without any drama, my and hubs are just too far away to give a shit.’.

RomanyQueen1 · 08/04/2019 19:13

You still own the property and it's your business, you do need to address any issues there.
HTH

Haggisfish · 08/04/2019 19:18

Just be very aware that letting agents are utterly shite for both tenants and landlords ime.

PresidentHump · 08/04/2019 19:20

Yanbu - just take the money and fuck everyone else.

Joking obviously - be a responsible landlord! I despise landlords like you. No integrity

scaryteacher · 08/04/2019 19:22

I let out my house whilst we are abroad, and I would want to know, so that I could chivvy the letting agent and get it sorted. I am however, going to return to the house, so I have a vested interest in making sure my tenants aren't anti social, and yes, they will be getting far more notice than is usual when we move back.

Londongirl888 · 08/04/2019 19:22

You do have a responsibility. This doesn't bode well if the tenants are annoying neighbours so early on. I would be concerned if I were you that you will have problems with these tenants in future.

Nearlythere1 · 08/04/2019 19:23

Well, every time there's a post from the neighbours perspective on here, the answer is always the same: hound the landlord until they do something about it.

UnderMajorDomoMinor · 08/04/2019 19:24

Isn’t this what you pay the letting agent to sort out? They’re on the ground so I’d trust their judgement.

Whatdoyouknowwhenyouknownowt · 08/04/2019 19:25

If you were in Scotland, the neighbours could take action against you for anti-social behaviour. Plus you'd be personally on a register so no hiding...

Get onto the agents, that's what you pay them for, put a rocket under them & get the house inspected. If they are poor tenants to ndn, then I wouldn't expert to get your house back in good nick.

Saying we've moved, not our problem is piss-poor.

Witchtower · 08/04/2019 19:26

You are going to have a hard year ahead OP. I genuinely do feel for you. The fact tenants are blocking people in is prob out of spite from neighbours complaints. It will get worse I’m afraid. Give us updates throughout the year 😊

Shapesandshops · 08/04/2019 19:29

Thanks again I have taken everyone's views into perspective and shown hubby the thread. He thinks it's early days but it's the letting agents responsibility to sort it out - hences why I will be blocking if I'm 'hounded'Confused

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MudCity · 08/04/2019 19:32

You do have a responsibility. If you aren’t concerned now, it sounds like you might be in the future!

Hazlenutpie · 08/04/2019 19:34

www.tenancyagreementservice.co.uk/noise-and-nuisance

It is a criminal offence for people to cause noise and nuisance which results in people being unable to relax and enjoy their home and community life.

Tenancy agreements set out the terms of the tenancy, which would include tenants agreeing not to make unnecessary noise or nuisance that may result in stress being caused to neighbouring residents.

Quartz2208 · 08/04/2019 19:36

Sorry OP but it is your responsibility but as you say your have a letting agency who are acting on your behalf - so you need to ensure that they are doing so and dealing with and following it up

Yes you need to tell your neighbours that the letting agents are acting on your behalf and send them to them

The problem is if they are difficult neighbours they will become difficult for you too - what is their issue right now could very easily become your issue later.

Are you in England or Scotland by the way as the position is different

Hazlenutpie · 08/04/2019 19:36

It's your responsibility as landlords. I suggest you read up on the laws governing your responsibilities as landlords.

Londongirl888 · 08/04/2019 19:37

Direct them to the agent but it will come back to you eventually won't it? Great if the agents are able to manage it. 

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HarrietSchulenberg · 08/04/2019 19:42

You sound like the landlord of the house 2 doors up from me. He's had a stream of of hideous tenants including known burglars, dog baiters and thieves and a thug who regularly beat his partner up while the kids screamed in the background. None of them were capable of using a bin and the rubbish piled up higher than their back door and garden fence so it toppled into my next door neighbour's garden.
Landlord not interested until he had to sort out the damage from the fire they caused by burning the rubbish (in the living room), at which point he bleated a lot about not knowing how bad it all was because he lived so far away (I personally don't call 40 miles far but he obviously did).
We all hated him and were delighted when the cunt went bust and flogged the virtual ruin to a better landlord who lives round the corner and doesn't tolerate shit tenants.

ContadoraExplorer · 08/04/2019 19:43

We have a couple of flats and are legally obliged to register with the council's landlord registry. Part of the form requires that we agree to ensure our tenants are not causing problems for our neighbours. I think that any neighbour can raise a dispute to the council which would stop us renewing our license as well.

I don't know about your own local authority rules but I would say you absolutely have a moral obligation to the neighbours as you own the property (but can delegate it to your letting agent to deal with).

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