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To ask you to write to St Mungos and Women's Aid about this

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ByGrabtharsHammarWhatASavings · 07/04/2019 13:20

I understand that a lot of people would rather these discussions stay off the main boards. I also appreciate that publications like the daily mail are easily dismissed as goady and sensationalist. But I would urge everyone to just read this article and decide for yourselves if you think it's acceptable. For those who don't want to click on a daily mail link I'll post the relevant bits here:

" a transgender ex-prisoner and convicted domestic abuser, who made chilling death threats to the mother of his child, has been allowed to come and go from a female-only refuge after he changed his name to Melissa. (...) St Mungo's, which operates 27 sites across London and the South of England, allowed Addis to gain 'almost daily' access to a women-only hostel in East London despite knowing about her criminal past."

"Another charity, Women's Aid, which oversees 300 shelters managed by smaller charities, also said its policy is to allow transgender women to live at the refuges, regardless of whether they have undergone sex-change treatments.(...) In its anonymised report, one shelter manager stated: 'If we have a client who wants to come in that identifies as female, they can come into our refuge or any part of our service.'(...) Another interviewee added: 'We would never ask for evidence of someone's sex or gender because we're open to women on a self-identifying basis.'"

This is not about bigotry or transphobia or any of the other words currently being used to shut this conversation down. If you believe as I do that men who are not legally recognised as transwomen but merely self-identify as such should not have access to these spaces, and that allowing this access is a violation of women's right, please write to St Mungos and Women's Aid and let them know. I've included template letters below for anyone who wants to use them.

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JamPasty · 09/04/2019 18:35

@ByGrabtharsHammarWhatASavings - I've had a reply from St mungos. It was a word document letter emailed to me with a covering note from someone who signed their name "their name which I won't include" - what the heck is that phrasing when it's at home?!

The word doc was broadly - we don't comment on individual cases and transwomen are welcome in our women's shelters.

JamPasty · 09/04/2019 18:38

Women's aid also replied. Their one wasn't an uncopyable PDF so I can paste the whole thing here:

Thank you for your email and we understand your concern.

With the government proposing to consult on and review the Gender Recognition Act, like many other organisations, we are taking the opportunity to review our internal policies. We are beginning this work now, and will talk to our member organisations and survivors as part of the process. Any decisions on our internal policy will be taken once this review is completed.

Women’s Aid is a federation, and as such it is not in our power to set the policies of the expert, independent, organisations that form our membership and run direct services for survivors. What we will do is use the outcome of the review to offer guidance to our membership on best practice.

Your support is very important to us and we will take your comments on board when reviewing our policies.

Best wishes,

Women's Aid

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