Frustrated with tenants?

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I’m trying to view a house and the tenants have refused to let me view it both times. Appointments been booked in advance and then they say it’s not a good time an hour before.

I get it if you don’t want to actually leave the property (not sure if that’s the situation or not) but I’m just being messed around now.

not really, it saves from some people starting to think they own the place.

Really? What does that look like?

I can't imagine renting ever feeling like owning.

not really, it saves from some people starting to think they own the place.

😂😂😂

I suspect the shit tonne of rent they pay out every month is a good enough reminder of that. You’ve got a shit attitude towards tenants. I hope you haven’t got power over making families move every farts end.

not really, it saves from some people starting to think they own the place.
Heaven forbid someone gets settled, enjoys seeing a few plants grow in the garden. Kids feel like it’s home and you get to unpack properly.

Moving costs tenants an absolute bloody fortune, maybe we should just move into a travelodge instead of feeling like we actually have a home and sanctuary.

I can't imagine renting ever feeling like owning

you'd think! Not everyone has common sense, and some think they can start change floors, redo a kitchen, redecorate, or simply not take care of a house as they should and create trouble.
Why would anyone spend money on a rental I have no idea, but there you go.

not really, it saves from some people starting to think they own the place.

Those pesky tenants wanting some long term security and to make their house into a home!

not really, it saves from some people starting to think they own the place

What an unbelievably arseholish comment

I suspect the shit tonne of rent they pay out every month is a good enough reminder of that.

If you think the rent is too high, may I suggest renting something cheaper?
I am sure most landlords would love to buy a property cheaper and pay less mortgage, they don't pull a rent out of thin air!

No one is complaining about that "shit tonne of rent" when it's time to change a boiler, fix a roof, clean gutters, repaint the property, upgrade the white goods

The tenants are very happy to benefit from the transaction, have a set rent to pay every month, call if any problem arises to get them fixed , have complete flexibility and being completely untouched by market crash.

This is so not reality.

Most people would prefer to own, rather than throw money away on someone else’s mortgage. It’s a privilege to own, many don’t have that.
The majority of landlords we have had are not prompt with repairs, get the cheapest job they can do causing future issues and in one case refused to fix heating and hot water so the environmental health had to issue hazard warnings to get it fixed, resulting in a revenge eviction for us. The work and stress involved in getting repairs done is not to be underestimated.
Moving costs are high so having to move every few years is both expensive and very stressful on families. Exchange ‘flexibility’ for ‘constant uncertainty and never really having security’.

You’ve really got no clue.

Why would anyone spend money on a rental I have no idea,
Because it’s your bloody Home!!!!
Assuming you have permission to decorate of course. My last rental the place had been inherited and not decorated, so we did new carpets (as it stank) and painted.
It’s our home, I take pride in it, I want it to be nice.
I want my children to have a say over his bedroom.

It’s pretty fucking depressing knowing you’ll never be able to decorate your kids bedroom because you weren’t fortunate enough to buy ten years ago.

What an unbelievably arseholish comment

I can distinctly hear the clatter of a hundred MN spreadsheets being updated

If you think the rent is too high, may I suggest renting something cheaper?

What, like a cardboard box? What kind of comment is that?

How many tenants get white goods upgraded more than once every twenty years? Gutter cleaning, repainting...

Cloud cuckoo anyone?

If you think the rent is too high, may I suggest renting something cheaper?

Oh what a novel idea. I wonder if anyone has ever considered that before. 😂 where do you suggest?

No one is complaining about that "shit tonne of rent" when it's time to change a boiler, fix a roof, clean gutters, repaint the property, upgrade the white goods grin

In the entire 14 years I’ve been renting none of this has ever been done! And yet I’ve still paid the shit tonne of rent. What a fool I am.

one is complaining about that "shit tonne of rent" when it's time to change a boiler, fix a roof, clean gutters, repaint the property, upgrade the white goods

All of which I’ve done in previous properties because the landlord wouldn’t. I’ve replasterd, retiled, refenced, dealt with fallen trees. Even re roofed when my sons bedroom had a massive leak.

No one is complaining about that "shit tonne of rent" when it's time to change a boiler, fix a roof, clean gutters, repaint the property, upgrade the white goods

I would love to have had just one LL that did any of that on time or without complaining and cutting corners, and I’ve lived in everything from cheap shitty flats, to large £3,000+ a month homes. Every one of them tries to avoid repairs or replacements.

What, like a cardboard box? What kind of comment is that?

well the price is based on the cost of the property and usually the monthly mortgage payments, or at least the current market rate. Not sure how you would expect anyone to rent a property for less than it actually costs them?

You do realise that most landlords do not make a profit from the rents? It's not what they are for, but are you really expect them to make a loss?

Of course the OP can complain, the tenants have prevented her viewing a house for sale that she wants to buy. Whether they were tenants or owners, that would be annoying.

Every property I rented had problems fixed promptly and things replaced when they needed to be. Not sure why you need to put all landlords in the same bag.
I did not call for a broken lightbulb like some posters did to be fair

Rental prices are nothing to do with mortgage payments, otherwise when the BoE interest rate changes, landlords would drop their prices - that never happens. It is all set by what the landlord can get away with.

If that isn't enough to make a profit after the landlord has complied with all the legal obligations, he should do something else and not whine that other people aren't sufficiently funding his lifestyle any more.

But, OP, who have you 'booked' it with?! If not the tenants, then try to get in touch with them directly.

I also wouldn't let a stranger in my home while I was out, even if accompanied by an estate agent.

thedisorganisedmum - I know it's conventional wisdom to say you shouldn't spend money on a rental, but there can be good reasons. Last year we rented a house that had been empty all winter and was in a bad state. It was so damp the paper was peeling off the walls, the plaster was crumbling and the window frames were rotting. It was also very cheap and very large. The lettings agency were happy for us to decorate more or less as we liked (eg., we ran paint choices with them if they weren't neutrals). They weren't prepared to put work into the house, but for us, it was worthwhile because the rent was so cheap and it gave us that freedom to enjoy making it pretty.

Other houses this sort of size can cost a third or half as much again to rent. I am much happier to rent here, believe me!

You do realise that most landlords do not make a profit from the rents?

Now you're just taking the piss.

Rental prices are nothing to do with mortgage payments, otherwise when the BoE interest rate changes, landlords would drop their prices

you do realise that when the BoE interest rate go down, it doesn't mean the mortgage rates go down too?

Of course the OP can complain, the tenants have prevented her viewing a house for sale that she wants to buy. Whether they were tenants or owners, that would be annoying.

Diddums! It's the LL's issue to sell the house, not the tenants, and they don't have to allow viewings at all. Who's she supposed to complain to? She can complain from now till the world ends, the tenant doesn't have to allow viewings. Boohoo. So find another house to buy.

You do realise that most landlords do not make a profit from the rents?

ahh yes, they do it for the warm fuzzy feeling they get from providing homes to those that need them.

Of course the OP can complain, the tenants have prevented her viewing a house for sale that she wants to buy. Whether they were tenants or owners, that would be annoying.

Being annoyed is understandable. She has no relationship with the tenants, though. So she should be annoyed with the vendor or their agent; Someone hasn't made sufficient efforts to secure access. Asking the potential buyer to name the time they want to view is probably a significant element of that.

I can't understand why anyone other than a professional landlord (who intends to buy with tenants in situ) would waste time viewing a tenanted house, though. Too many potential problems between viewing and vacant possession. So that might be colouring my view.