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Frustrated with tenants?

462 replies

thankunextex · 25/03/2019 10:13

I’m trying to view a house and the tenants have refused to let me view it both times. Appointments been booked in advance and then they say it’s not a good time an hour before.

I get it if you don’t want to actually leave the property (not sure if that’s the situation or not) but I’m just being messed around now.

OP posts:
ColeHawlins · 26/03/2019 18:47

They haven't simply refused access, they agree to a time/date allowing OP to organise the time/date/travel and then they cancel last minute.

In fairness, we have no way of knowing that.

HarrysOwl · 26/03/2019 18:51

Appointments been booked in advance and then they say it’s not a good time an hour before

ColeHawlins · 26/03/2019 18:54

Appointments been booked in advance and then they say it’s not a good time an hour before

Yes but this was all discussed upthread and it transpires she was making the appointments with the agent (for a time of her choosing) and had no idea when, or if, the tenant had been informed of the appointments.

lyralalala · 26/03/2019 18:55

We only know that the EA have booked appointments with the OP. We don't know what kind of manners they've shown the tenant. Several on the thread have had experience of only being told last minute in that istuation

JaneEyre07 · 26/03/2019 18:56

It's really rude to cancel a booking an hour beforehand.

I pity their Landlord.

RomanyQueen1 · 26/03/2019 18:58

I'd be looking elsewhere, properties with tenants are usually cheaper for this reason.
Does it not say how long on the tenancy on rightmove? Does it have pictures of all the rooms? This is usually an indication of how helpful the tenants are.
It's their home and i don't blame them, the owner may have to wait until it's empty before they sell.

Bennyandthejetsssss · 26/03/2019 19:22

How do we know tenants weren’t ill? Something happened that meant they didn’t want prospective purchaser trouping around?

How do we know they don’t pay their rent early, let alone on time? Keep the place immaculate and would get a 5* rating as a tenant? Landlord refs don’t tend to state how many times you took the piss out of a tenants privacy...the law has changed to stop this sort of imbalance but I see there’s an outdated belief in some places that a landlord can literally lord it over you in some superior ‘getorfmyland’ style!!

I bet tenants are paying over the going rate in rent countering the call that cancelling viewings is cuntish behaviour! Last minute EAs pushing viewings are cuntish in my opinion!

I wouldn’t want people unceremoniously tramping through my home if I didn’t feel like it, whether they were buying it or not.

I’ve purchased flats where the vendors were just as bloody difficult to get second and third viewings with. Would you be moaning about such a situation on here if the vendor were refusing your tape measure?

People’s homes are prople’s homes.

YABVU. EA probably being a dick from experience.

HarrysOwl · 26/03/2019 19:42

When I was a tenant, I didn't view the rental houses as my home. I regarded them as places I paid to live in.

ILoveMaxiBondi · 26/03/2019 19:44

Oh well, we’re all different aren’t we? It’s perfectly fine to consider the house you live in as your home.

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 26/03/2019 19:51

When I was a tenant, I didn't view the rental houses as my home. I regarded them as places I paid to live in.

That’s nice for you. Many families need to rent for many years or even, their whole lives. To suggest they should never feel like where they live is their home, is quite strange and bordering on classist. The law, happily, also sees it as a tenants home. You seen very anti-tenants, like many landlords having their mortgage paid for by them.

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 26/03/2019 19:53

It's really rude to cancel a booking an hour beforehand

None of us, nor the OP, have any idea why this happened or if it was the tenant. The OP isn’t dealing with them and has not seen the property yet.

Nobody can make any assumptions or comments on these particular tenants AT ALL.

HarrysOwl · 26/03/2019 19:53

Sure, though I could never consider home to be a space I don't own.

Like a car you've hired, or a storage space you rent. Along those lines, I guess.

Home only felt like home with my first (bought) house. Maybe because of the security, and the fact I could do what I liked to the property without the need for permission.

Liketoshop · 26/03/2019 19:53

If I was the owner I would give them notice intending to move in and then put the property on the market after they leave. Owner is clearly not shrewd and teach them a lesson by going elsewhere. What's the estate agent doing? I found them very experienced and resourceful!

Educator66 · 26/03/2019 19:55

Was the house advertised at a bargain price? If so, those tenants may be the reason. If you were to purchase the house and move them out - are they the type who would want revenge? There is no reason for any tenants to refuse to let anyone see a property if they are moving out, in fact they expect people to come to view. Drop it! Save yourself the hassle.

ILoveMaxiBondi · 26/03/2019 19:55

Like a car you've hired, or a storage space you rent. Along those lines, I guess.

Or a house you’ve taken a mortgage to buy. But yours til it’s paid off.

ILoveMaxiBondi · 26/03/2019 19:56

*not

ILoveMaxiBondi · 26/03/2019 19:57

There is no reason for any tenants to refuse to let anyone see a property if they are moving out,

There is
1)it’s their home
2) they don’t want to
3) they don’t have to.

in fact they expect people to come to view.

Not if they haven’t agreed to it.

HarrysOwl · 26/03/2019 19:58

Nope. No mortgages.

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 26/03/2019 20:00

Gosh I’m shocked at people saying the EA’s have just let themselves in to rented properties unannounced. Really?

Yes, it’s mostly EA’s in my experience, that over-step. But I had a landlord when I was living alone, who firstly rang the landline at 3am ( he was a surgeon ), then as I didn’t answer, let himself in shortly after to ‘ measure the radiator’. He couldn’t believe I was angry about him frightening me and letting himself in! I moved out, of course.

It’s not a ‘landlord bashing thread’. These are real stories, many of them about agents. It started as a tenant bashing thread, even though the OP has never spoken to them!

CalmDownPacino · 26/03/2019 20:01

This thread just keeps on giving! Who knew, all these years I've had no "home". Just a space I hire.

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 26/03/2019 20:01

Sure, though I could never consider home to be a space I don't own.

Long term renters should be able to feel at home where they live, although it never is the same as when you own. So maybe spare a thought for those that can never ever own.

CalmDownPacino · 26/03/2019 20:03

Gosh I’m shocked at people saying the EA’s have just let themselves in to rented properties unannounced. Really?

Yes, really. I've rented for 16 years. Estate agents and landlords. Take a look at this thread. Landlords themselves with no clue about the law. Assuming they can write whatever clauses they fancy into tenancy agreements.

lyralalala · 26/03/2019 20:05

There is no reason for any tenants to refuse to let anyone see a property if they are moving out, in fact they expect people to come to view

There are plenty of reasons for them to refuse. Ranging from that appointment not being convenient to it not being a requirement for them to allow it at all.

This house has been on the market for four months - just how long would people expect tenants to put up with viewings for?

If a LL is too tight to have a void to sell then they run the risk of the tenant not playing ball with viewings. They have absolutely no legal obligation too.

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 26/03/2019 20:06

I had great agents once, once, in many many years of renting. They were prompt at dealing with repairs, efficient, never let themselves in without permission and worked around us with no hassle. It’s very rare though.

ILoveMaxiBondi · 26/03/2019 20:06

Nope. No mortgages.

I was adding to your list of examples. Not saying that was your situation.

But lucky you.