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Scallions is not an Americanism

159 replies

Monty27 · 18/03/2019 01:31

I got accused today of using an Americanism. I said it's Irish, it became transaltantic after the famine.
Scallions in mash on st Patrick's Day is Irish. With cabbage and bacon of course. No Guinness but Irish coffees and beers and cava I was hosting

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CruCru · 18/03/2019 17:13

My Geordie mother calls them Scallions.

TroysMammy · 18/03/2019 17:19

I call them spring onions. My father calls them shibboons which is his word for them being called sibwn/gibbons in Wales.

PrettyAmazingGrace · 18/03/2019 17:35

Another County Durham original here - and scallions every time. You've brought me happy memories of my grandparents tonight! Everyone seems to say spring onions now (on the many occasions I have.conversations about them).

Friend from Aberystwyth says 'jibbons', spelled 'gibbons'. I thought it was just him!

minesasaugagesupper · 18/03/2019 17:48

Scallions in mash with a little bit of milk and butter is called 'champ'. Americanism my arse :)

MissConductUS · 18/03/2019 17:59

Americanism my arse smile

Let's try to be nice to the cousins across the pond please. Grin

BlackPrism · 18/03/2019 18:02

Always called the Spring Onions where I am in England

BlackPrism · 18/03/2019 18:03

My Canadian family call them scallions

BlackPrism · 18/03/2019 18:06

@ThumbWitchesAbroad that's fucking madness right there

BlackPrism · 18/03/2019 18:07

And I'm from the NE and it is spring onions to everyone I know Hmm

3out · 18/03/2019 18:24

@TheSpottedZebra, N Scotland here too. I don’t think I saw a spring onion til I was quite ‘old’, we just made do with chives which grew at the washing line (I thought chives were quite posh 😂)

SallyGardens · 18/03/2019 18:34

Natives of Co Carlow in the SE of Ireland are called "Scallion Aters" because they used to be grown in the area for the market gardens in Dublin.

Fount of useless knowledge, me.

SenecaFalls · 18/03/2019 18:41

I grew up in the southern US. We called them spring onions, but now most people I know in the US call them green onions. The only time I hear scallions is on Food Network.

IamEarthymama · 18/03/2019 18:47

https://forest-of-dean.net/fodmembers/index.php?mode=thread&id=37411**

"A Welsh-speaking person on the Monmouthshire message board has written to say that it comes from a WElsh word"sibwm" and that jibbons is a "Wenglish" word, Wenglish being the language spoken in parts of Monmouthshire. This was mostly the Western coal-mining valleys(including Newbridge, Mon where I was born)
Sylvia"

This debate has been going on for a long time, I am sure.
I have decided to use jibbons from now on, we are losing so many of our Talk Tidy, Wenglish words.

StoneofDestiny · 18/03/2019 18:52

spring onions in UK

Nope - syboes in Scotland, Spring Onions in England - no idea about Wales.

Fluffyears · 18/03/2019 18:52

Sybees was a word I first heard from a Glaswegian. I am from Ayrshire andcalled them spring onions. Salad onions annoys me! The only way to eat them is softened in butter and poured over boiled Ayrshire tatties!

B1t2Indy · 18/03/2019 18:59

Jamaicans call them scallions too. Which probably came from Irish people who came to the island

3out · 18/03/2019 19:01

I’ve never heard of syboes until today and I’m Scottish. We called them spring onions.

3out · 18/03/2019 19:03

@SenecaFalls good old Martha Stewart calls them scallions. Guessing that ties in with the Food Network theme :)

isseywithcats · 18/03/2019 19:06

a always thought it was scallions in ireland ans spring onions in england

magicmole · 18/03/2019 19:07

I'm another one with Durham/Tyneside family (and Scottish grandparents) who grew up knowing them as scallions. No Irish folk in the family as far as I know. When I moved south nobody had heard of them.

Do love hearing about the vocab used in different dialects. Lots of crossover between North East England and parts of Scotland (as you'd expect).

Kaboodler · 18/03/2019 19:11

I'm Irish so say scallions and I remember Ainsley Harriot on Ready Steady Cook saying that people in Jamaica call them scallions too. Lived in Glasgow for five years and can't recall ever hearing them called syboes!

Cismyfatarse1 · 18/03/2019 19:12

My Dad, from Yorkshire, called them violets.

He maintained that was regional. Born near Wakefield to parents from that area. Born in 1935.

I have always wondered if it was a family rather than regional thing but it is too late to ask him. Anyone heard of this one?

MyShinyWhiteTeeth · 18/03/2019 19:19

I'm from NE England. We call them either spring onions and scallions. I thought spring onions tend to be the younger ones with lots of green whereas scallions tend to be older, wider ones. I think the distinctions been lost now things are available out of season.

I don't think southerners are that familiar with calling them scallions.

Usingmyindoorvoice · 18/03/2019 19:20

Jibbons when I was growing up in South East Wales.

BestIsWest · 18/03/2019 19:24

Sibwns here too (pronounced shibbons or jibbons.

I think the actual Welsh word is sibols which is not a million miles away from syboes/sybees and also not far from the Portuguese cebola, the Spanish cebolla and the Italian cipolla.