Aibu to be shocked by 24 hours in police custody

[Mammajay]

So a 15 year old boy rapes a 20 year old girl at knifepoint. He has also sexually assaulted another girl. He has been expelled from school for pulling up a girl's skirt and punching her in the vagina and asking two other girls to suck his penis. So after no commenting in his police interview, he tries saying the girl he raped was a prostitute he paid for sex. The CPS prosecute anyway, but psychiatrist says boy unfit to testify. The trial is held and he is found guilty. The judge orders a full psychiatric report on the boy and no further action is taken. So he is still at liberty to attack other girls and women. Surely something seriously wrong here?

Lots of incorrect information on here.

Ian Huntley is in a Category A prison. It's not a rehab style prison, although I'm not sure what is meant by that. You definitely can't get pizza delivered to your cell!

In the case on 24 Hours the man was detained under a hospital order. This will be a secure unit, effectively prison restrictions with medical supervision. Once the hospital order is lifted, he will be returned to court in order to be committed to prison.

My cousin was murdered by a thug who claimed he was schizophrenic. He had done it before and knew how to work the system. Didn’t even get detained for any length of time. Evil truly walks among us.

In the case on 24 Hours the man was detained under a hospital order. This will be a secure unit, effectively prison restrictions with medical supervision. Once the hospital order is lifted, he will be returned to court in order to be committed to prison.

Not necessarily. Depends on the hospital order.

I'm a forensic mental health nurse. It's not the easy ride some people like to think. Someone detained under a hospital order for treatment could very well end up being an inpatient in hospital for significantly longer than a prison sentence would have been. One of my service users has been in for 25 years for quite low level assault.

Also contrary to popular belief it is quite hard to take the syntpons of a severe and chronic mental illness that is to such a degree it requires hospitalization. We very often get people in from prison for assessment who very quickly get sent back to prison becasue it's clear they aren't mentally unwell.

Fake the syntpons. Not takes I wish mn would allow limited post editing.

I'm sure it said he was detained after all of the reports were obtained. He was free though between the trial and the reports. I think it said for 4 months

Viola what rubbish are you spouting?

I thought it said he got something like 22 years and is currently locked up.

Bloomburger
That was the taxi driver wasn't it? Nit the young boy

I am relieved that he would seem to be in a secure unit now. He is a very dangerous young man with mental health issues.

The female detective was so upset that it was obvious she thought he was still a huge risk.

ViolaD77 could you please cite your sources for Huntley in this lovely prison with pizza and large screen TVs?

The 15 year old had already been permanently excluded from school for punching a girl in her vulva.This is a very,very dangerous young man.

The program itself wasn’t clear about what happened to the 15 year old. I’m glad he’s not living in the community, he was extremely violent. I was totally shocked when it said he’d been released for 4 months.

Not spouting rubbish
www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2170891/amp/Ian-Huntleys-cushy-prison-life-disgrace-death-penalty-answer.html

I work in mental health too and that is what happens majority of the time. As pp's have said, they know how to work the system

I saw that. I made me feel physically sick. Where is the justice for his victims? Absolutely disgusting.

At least the cab driver got banged up for a properly long time. I hope it ruins his life.

Yeah, that article doesn't support the claims you're making. All prisons are supposed to rehabilitate btw.

Re the comment about the boy's dad telling him what to say. The boy's dad was shown telling him to tell the truth and not try to hide anything. I thought the police officers meant the boy's solicitor had suggested that as a defence, although obviously they couldn't say that in so many words.

I was quite frustrated at the way the solicitors kept asking for a break just when the questioning was getting somewhere!

The crimes are awful, but if a psychiatrist is saying that the child who committed them is not fit to plead (presumably due to significant mental health issues or a significant learning disability) then surely it is better that he receives care and treatment in a secure setting?

I have some experience of high secure mental health settings and they are definitely not "cushy" whatever the daily mail says. They are stark and frightening in my experience.

Some of the most prolific criminals are locked up at Rampton on the psychiatric units. Being mentally ill and yet capable of horrendous acts doesn't mean they're let off to roam free within the community outside.
I shouldn't think the 15 year old from last night's programme isn't facing any consequences.

What about his victims. Why is everyone worried about his mental health and if he would suffer in prison. The apologists for these individuals make me sick.

Don’t see your point. Not seen whatever you’re talking about but seems fairly obvious from OPs posts that he got sentenced to a hospital order rather than jail. In some respects it’s worse than jail as you don’t get out until you’re deemed safe whereas custody has a deadline.

So what’s your problem????

I think a hospital order is preferable because it isn't time banded. It seems it is safer for potential victims if he is in a secure forensic setting.

@girlwithadragontattoo It's called "24 Hours in Police Custody"

The Criminal Jystice System seems to be more concerned with criminals than with victims.

It is possible to care about victims and to recognise that people can have a reduced responsibility for their actions when very unwell.