To ask what Kate Middleton is really like?

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Just that really. I know some of you will think ‘who cares?’ but I find her kind of intriguing. Always so well turned out/groomed, very poised, polite...I wonder what her real personality is? How does she manage so much scrutiny?

@DioneTheDiabolist

I think thedisorganisedmum's comments are misogynistic. So a woman only has worth if she has a career? A woman who chooses to be, say, a chartered surveyor or a sales rep for a big pharma company has more value than a woman who took a different path?

Her grandmother inlaw is on here, and gives great relationship advice.

Nothing was stopping her from achieving things or having a voice before the wedding, or even just having some kind of job or hobby.

Nope, just the tabloids with their bullying paparazzi. Just the dodgy undercover “journalists” trying for a sting at every opportunity. They tried to ruin Sophie and Fergie and I doubt Mr and Mrs Middleton were prepared to put their daughter into such a situation. Good for them, the Middletons should be applauded.

They tried to ruin Sophie and Fergie

Those two offered access to the RF for money, didn't they? Can't blame the press for them being mercenary and daft.

I admire her, and she fits the role perfectly. She is a great role model. I think her & Prince William are great together.
I read somewhere that she is on here, and does post, as she likes a bit of normality in her life.

Carol Middleton is a great woman and very savvy.

i agree user1457017537 she is a great woman.

OlgaArsenievnaOleinik
Don't try to make me say things I haven't.

So a woman only has worth if she has a career?
We are talking about Kate Middleton, who happens to be female, but I would say exactly the same thing about a man.

Yes, I believe a person (nothing to do with gender) only has worth if they do SOMETHING, and accomplish anything, but something. Anything especially when they have money, a career, studies, art, charity, sport, fashion, travel.

I can't seriously raise my daughters telling them to concentrate on shopping and marrying a rich guy. That's is embarrassing.
I wouldn't raise my boys telling them to marry a rich woman either.

Of course I believe people who do nothing are worthless, what can they talk about in the first place?

Disorganisedmum she IS doing something. She’s patron of many charities and is trying to do what she can within her own role, which is limiting by definition.
Pippa is another story. Or Melania Trump. However you know nothing about their personal lives other than what we see in the media. You sound incredibly judgemental and self righteous.

To be fair Melania was a model before she met Trump and left her home country for work, learnt another language etc.

I’m sure someone in her set could have offered her a job, however small, working somewhere discreet. I know lots of rich girls who will probably give up work after children and who don’t need the money now, but they all do something.

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we are not talking about the few engagements she really cannot avoid nowadays, we are talking about her life as a young, attractive, wealthy, independent women - remind us what she did then?

Even Pippa was a keen sportswomen, got involved in charities, and even tried various business "ventures" when she could use her now famous name. She is hardly the best example as she was raised with Kate, but she managed to do more.

Of course I am judgemental, it's embarrassing to see someone with no achievement and no interest.

I’d rather be an organised SAHM than disorganised.

Oh FGS @Triglesoffy , grow up. Or do you always pick apart NNs?

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brilliant.

So a woman only has worth if she has a career?

She was neither a wife nor a mother at that time, just a girlfriend waiting around for a proposal. He’s the one who put her in that position, she definitely could have had a job (and probably a very interesting one) but I guess Willy just couldn’t wait for her to finish work for the day.

This is what Belle Robinson (co-owner of Jigsaw) said about the brief job Kate had with them:

“Then she rang me up one day and said: 'Could I come and talk to you about work?' She genuinely wanted a job but she needed an element of flexibility to continue the relationship with a very high-profile man and a life that she can't dictate. She's going to be dictated to when she's needed and not needed."

William is the one to blame here, but Kate did put up with it.

In a flight of fancy of mine, Prince William and Peter Andre swap wives. Emily Andre is a qualified, working doctor yet still does the red carpet glam stuff and speaks out on medical issues. It seems to me that she would be a role model more in keeping with the zeitgeist.

Given that Prince William was able to work as a helicopter pilot, I think meaningful employment for royal women at the very least in the run up to having children seems a reasonable proposition. Actually it’s not really about having a job per se, but showing signs of having passions and interests beyond enjoying the trappings of wealth and waiting to be defined as someone’s wife or mother.

Of course I understand that there are many women from affluent families who do follow exactly this route and there is nothing wrong with this in principle. It's more a case of whether these life choices are compatible with being a role model.

She is like a Cadbury's Creme Egg.

Firm on the outside, very polished and well dressed. Soft and sweet on the inside.

@thedisorganisedmum I’m really surprised to hear you’ve heard negative things about her.

I met her a few times years before she was a royal, and she was lovely and quiet. Not much of a party animal but perfectly nice.

Pippa had a touch of the Regina George about her, but not Kate.

I always felt like Pippa whether by design or otherwise was determined to outshine her sister. But never felt like the competition was two-sided.

Their dad was lovely. Their mum...interesting.

I never spoke to their brother. Forgot they had one 😂

And now I know someone who worked for her and William for a time, and she can’t say enough lovely things about them. She said they were lovely, polite to everyone always, no airs about them. Devoted to each other and to George (she didn’t have the others then) and super affectionate behind closed doors.

All in all a lovely person by all accounts. Except yours!

I’m really surprised to hear you’ve heard negative things about her.

it's true though. It's a family that take itself VERY seriously.

Some of it did make its way in the press, don't you remember how Eugenie and Beatrice were left in tears?

I have also heard A LOT of negative things about William, who take himself a lot more seriously apparently, but that, I didn't personally witness.

I really really hate the way so many women (and some men too) are judged by their 'achievements'. Achievements as in how much they earn, how 'busy' they appear to be, their 'work ethic'. A woman can have a lot of worth through quietly going about their lives, their achievements may be supporting someone else through a bad time, making sure the house is running efficiently, being a loving mother and wife. Kate is interested in mental health issues, art, photography, and I am sure many other things too. It is impossible to tell how she spends her days without following her around. To make judgements about someone's inherent worth based on how publicly she demonstrates her 'value' is a nonsense.
I agree that William has set the agenda from the day she met him, it had to be that way, sadly. She had to fit around his life and interests, his job, his role. Even Sophie has had to do this, and she ran her own business before she got married. What do we know about Camilla's interests for example? Is there an assumption that she has none because she doesn't talk publicly about them? She has never had a job in her life. She works hard for the RF now, but I suppose she too is viewed as a rich airhead?
Just because someone has money and privilege doesn't mean they are lazy and have no interests or passions.

we are talking about her life as a young, attractive, wealthy, independent women - remind us what she did then?

We have no idea because she kept a low profile and we only really saw her when she was dashing from a nightclub into the back of a cab with Pippa or William. How can we judge what she did if we don't? For all you know she could have been living a culturally rich and sporty life but that is of no value to you if she doesn't publicise it.

@thedisorganisedmum I assumed the Beatrice and Eugenie story was a bit like the "Meghan made Kate cry" one, ie a tabloid fabrication.

I wouldn't be surprised to hear things about William though, he comes across as arrogant and I don't think he'd like it if his wife outshined him.

Think William has issues!