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Smoking weed - what’s your take on it...

367 replies

Notcontent · 03/03/2019 23:50

I don’t know much about it but on balance think it should probably be decriminalised. However, it is addictive and it obviously can have a negative impact on people’s lives and mental health. It does seem very prevalent around my part of London - I feel like I can smell it in the street all the time when I am out and about.

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Mumminmum · 06/06/2019 11:53

I only knew people who used regularly approx. 30 years ago. They all became very aggressive when smoking weed and the aggression would last for some days after. So they would ne nice Thursday and Friday in school and then aggressive untill next Thursday. Every single one of them felt that the weed made them more mellow and relaxed but their classmates, friends and relatives had the opposite view.

2eternities · 06/06/2019 11:55

I occasionally use a wood burner but not fires the smell knocks me sick. I use weed to self medicate ptsd from being gang raped at 13 where NHS has failed to help me. I couldn't care less what my neighbours think, bet they wouldn't want to change places with me! Better than living next to a bunch of middle aged noisy alcoholics which I had the misfortune of once

TheUser420 · 06/06/2019 11:57

I've never had worse physical and mental health than when I was on citalopram and had the naxaplanon in.

The downright violent and unpleasant side-effects of some medicines that we are expected to pop in our mouths without question is another example of the morality of cannabis. Our medicine: good; your medicine: bad and that's before we get into the (literally) mind bending and addictive effects of benzodiazepines.

(Common use of cannabis is to prevent emesis from prescription medications - particularly chemotherapy).

I think the best way to deal with that would be making it legal to produce and sell low THC-content cannabis. Make it easier for people to buy the regulated product.

And what about people that grow their own ?

2eternities · 06/06/2019 11:59

Like most medications and even alcohol, it doesn't do much good for some people. My mum has tried but doesn't like. Dpesnt mean those who it benefits should be stopped!

JustAnotherPoster00 · 06/06/2019 12:00

Just because it hasn't been proven yet doesn't mean it doesn't cause MH issues

Correlation does not equate to causation

JamieVardysHavingAParty · 06/06/2019 12:16

I occasionally use a wood burner but not fires the smell knocks me sick. I use weed to self medicate ptsd from being gang raped at 13 where NHS has failed to help me. I couldn't care less what my neighbours think, bet they wouldn't want to change places with me! Better than living next to a bunch of middle aged noisy alcoholics which I had the misfortune of once

I am sorry to hear what you have gone through, but I don't really see what it has to do with your claim that we can do whatever we like in our own gardens. Especially as you have gone on to underline the point that you don't care about being considerate to your neighbours.

And what about people that grow their own ?

I don't really think anything will deal with it, unless we're going to put loads of public money into investigating every single greenhouse in the country and we're going to institute punitive measures for being caught with a solitary plant. I can't see the point of it.

Appealling to people's laziness will inevitably see a reduction in people growing for personal use though. How many people can be arsed to grow tomatoes when you can buy them in supermarkets? Some people, who genuinely enjoy gardening, or are particular about the taste do, but mostly Tesco do a roaring trade in tomatoes.

TheUser420 · 06/06/2019 12:27

How many people can be arsed to grow tomatoes when you can buy them in supermarkets?

They would if they had tasted them. Nothing in UK supermarkets comes close to the flavour of a tomato grown for taste not profit. That goes for any vegetable sold by weight these days.

JamieVardysHavingAParty · 06/06/2019 12:30

Nope. I know how much better home-grown tomatoes taste, and I still can't be arsed to grow my own. It's just made me buy the "specially selected" packs packs of red tomatoes instead of the gently orange cheap packs.

2eternities · 06/06/2019 13:17

Jamie tbh if a neighbour smoking weed In their garden is the biggest issue in their lives they should consider themselves very lucky.

Of course if I smoked in the house I'd be a terrible parent, can't win with some people. Me me me, lol! I'm not about to make myself sick to please some stuck up neighbour who can't cope with a bit of funky smell every now and again. The fact people think they can interfere In their neighbours lives like this makes my blood boil!

Lifeover · 06/06/2019 13:47

It’s a psychotic substance capable of being passed through second hand smoke (ie others who have chosen not to do it). The fact people walk the streets (and sit in kids play grounds smoking it) is the thin end of the wedge of accepting anti social behaviour (I also think smoking should be banned in public).

If my neighbour smoked it subjecting my child to their drug habit I would make sure the sprinkler was very close to the fence every time they started. I don’t want my kid breathing in your drugs

TheUser420 · 06/06/2019 13:58

Nope. I know how much better home-grown tomatoes taste, and I still can't be arsed to grow my own.

To be fair my DF decide to retire before he started Grin

Going back 15 years, you could get a variety of cherry tomatoes called "Sungold" - from all UK supermarkets. They were divine.
Now you can only buy seeds - the farmers that grew them simply couldn't compete when people pay for weight not taste.

Now you can grow tomatoes in the UK without hydroponics. But it's less fun Grin.

MissConductUS · 06/06/2019 14:09

It’s a psychotic substance

I think you mean psychoactive.

I agree, no one should be exposed to second hand smoke without their consent.

Morgan12 · 06/06/2019 14:11

What does weed to for ptsd? Genuine question.

I know one person who has smoked weed every day for over ten years and honestly believe its gave them serious mental problems.

2eternities · 06/06/2019 14:19

'drug habit' ffs lol! Maybe you should lighten up literally and have a few tokes, your head might fall back out your arse!

Lifeover · 06/06/2019 14:22

2eternites, quite frankly you just prove everything I think about drug takers.

TheUser420 · 06/06/2019 14:23

What does weed to for ptsd? Genuine question.

In general terms it can act as a mild sedative - similar to diazepam. However quite aside from the problems with diazepam* it does it in a different way.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6007739/

is a good starting point (warning: contains facts).

All the talk of addiction reminds me of a recent thread where a poster was enraged* that her doctor would not just scribble out a quick prescription of diazepam for her anxiety. It was quite a long thread and while many posters - correctly - informed her that the doctor was following the current guidance, she became more and more argumentative and obtuse. If ever there was a display of addiction that was it.

2eternities · 06/06/2019 14:24

Morgan calms me down, reduces dreams and nightmares, helps with sleep and anxiety.

It doesn't work for everyone just like legal medicine. Mental health issues happen over time weed or not. Many times the weed is blamed when the issues came first

2eternities · 06/06/2019 14:28

Life over take it you feel the same about those who drink wine to wind down, and those who use prescription medication?

TheUser420 · 06/06/2019 14:36

Morgan calms me down, reduces dreams and nightmares, helps with sleep and anxiety.

Interestingly some people report a lack of dreams when under the regular influence of cannabis (not all). Which seems to rebound into extra vivid and active dreaming when they stop using cannabis.

In an ideal world, it would be one aspect I'd be keen to dig further into. Is it dreaming itself that is being suppressed ? Or just the memory of dreaming. And that's before you start looking into the phenomenon of dreaming and mental health an general.

Of course what a lot of people miss, is that if cannabis can have such a dramatic negative effect on mental faculties, then we still don't know how or why. Which is an irritating lack of knowledge .. who knows what possible cures or treatments there may be out there if it emerges that it's also possible to engender positive effects ?

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 06/06/2019 18:01

For all those who think it's harmful, check out the actual studies - it's physically impossible to OD on, it calms you (sedative not stimulant) unlike alcohol and has no cumulative medical issues

Also can create extreme paranoia and very often does many young offenders are cannabis users (more than other drugs or alcohol) put in concerns they have of violence their paranoia will exasperate and the feeling they need to be carrying a knife to protect himself it’s a very dangerous combination

Studies are catching up with what is happening particularly with young man smoking weed

QuizzlyBear · 06/06/2019 18:34

Studies are catching up with what is happening particularly with young man smoking weed

I've not seen any studies linking weed to the rise in knife crime - can you direct me to them, please? I'd be very interested.

I'd never advocate anybody smoking weed before the age of about 21, the brain is still forming and using psychoactive substances during that period is just asking for trouble. The same with alcohol, mind you.

I'm not advising anybody to go out and use it if that's not their bag, but if it came down to a 'recreational drug' choice between that or alcohol then I'd prefer my children (when adults) smoked the odd spliff to wind down in the evening than drink booze regularly and risk alcoholism.

I've seen the damage that can do - and to a FAR larger percentage of the population. EVERYONE is susceptible to alcoholism, whereas a tiny percentage are estimated to be at risk of psychosis from smoking normal-potency weed. The slightly elevated risk comes from high-potency weed (skunk), which ironically could be eliminated if it were legalised and regulated.

Thesuzle · 06/06/2019 18:42

Pot or cigarette smoke or flavoured vapey things all horrible, for non smokers to smell or inhale when out and about.
Pot for medical use ok more research needed. but keep it as a criminal act otherwise

MercedesDeMonteChristo · 06/06/2019 18:56

I think anything more than a social split has a detrimental impact. I have read studies now but accept my opinion is largely anecdotal. In my experience people I know who smoke regularly all fall into one of the following (at points I have come into contact with/known a lot of regular smokers so whilst not scientific it’s more than Larry up the road).

  1. People who function perfectly well and have homes, jobs etc. Those I have come across so all these things well but in every case (that I have seen) exhibit anxiety (which they medicate with weed and go in a circle), overreaction to change or incidents and some obsessive pettiness. And when they tell me about the trouble at work with their boss for example I struggle to understand the problem. These people tend also not to accept that there could be anything in their behaviour causing issues.
  1. Those who become lazy, unbothered by very much else.
  1. Those who develop far reaching mental illnesses which can really disrupt and ruin their lives.

I have smoked in the past but never more than an occasional weekend And my comments relate to regular use.

QuizzlyBear · 06/06/2019 19:02

I think anything more than a social split has a detrimental impact. I have read studies now but accept my opinion is largely anecdotal

Mine is first hand, and yes, I also know plenty of regular smokers. Most of those I know are high earners with busy lives and other than an alcoholic brother and a best friend with anxiety (who doesn't smoke), I don't know anyone with mental health issues.

I guess our own anecdotal 'evidence' is informed by those we socialise with. That and the Daily Mail, anyway.

JamboNzy · 06/06/2019 19:12

I like weed