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Career or housewife

26 replies

NMRJC20 · 22/02/2019 00:57

My partner is wonderful in every aspect however I’m managing one issue badly. we fall out about his brother (he often asks for money-talking hundreds of pounds) I get told not to ask him to choose between him and his brother. To make this very clear I’m not asking for this, I’m asking my partner to say no to the constant asking for money. His sister also constantly asks for money (the last was for €2000). I’m a teacher I won’t earn this sort of money. We say no and the family doesnt hold a grudge as far as I can tell (they don’t speak English and live abroad so I’m not 100% but we Skype and my partner translates and it all seems lovely. I’m learning to speak the language.) we send money home to mum as she does not have a pension to live on despite working hard all her life.

But we disagree on one major thing. His sisters and brothers fiancée do not work. They can work. They have no children under the age of 9. There are three sisters and one fiancée of a brother. None work. I understand it’s cultural. However, I feel like we work hard, and instead of us giving them money they could work. It’s Albania. Many women now work! When we have these discussions he understandably becomes defensive as I think he feels I’m attacking his family. I’ve written conversations down to try and phrase things the best I can, but it does not seem to have helped. Tonight he had a little alcohol and now he says he doesn’t want to get married and the fact i have a career and get stressed is because I’m not good enough. I haven’t achieved anything. My career is meaningless and is somehow failure in his eyes. I’m a secondary school teacher, I work hard and take a lot of pride in what I do. I think I might be good at it, not amazing, but I work hard and I think the kids appreciate it. They say as much and they’re usually harsh critics ha! I love my job. To hear he thinks I have to do it because I’ve somehow failed as a woman, that somehow I’m not quite good enough to be a housewife, when it’s literally my greatest achievement, has pretty much left me bereft. My kids, and yes I do call them my kids, are my pride and joy. He’s never said anything like tonight before, we’ve only been engaged a year, I’m a little worried it’s the truth coming out. Does he really think my job is all for nothing? I’m an advanced skills teacher, I have a masters, I work really hard, I love it. But he’s made it really clear he sees it as a failure. If I was a good enough woman I’d have found a man who would let me stay at home. Now I don’t know what to think. Help. Please?!

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NMRJC20 · 22/02/2019 01:16

Can anyone please help?

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Justagirlwholovesaboy · 22/02/2019 01:23

You already know the answer op, you are bright, you are looking for reassurance. And you are correct, do you want your children raised believing this?

HirplesWithHaggis · 22/02/2019 01:23

That sounds like a pretty big drawback to me. Constantly undermining your career? Who provides this money he keeps sending to his unemployed family (mum is OK), and if it's him, how much do you carry his consequent burden?

PomBearWithAnOFRS · 22/02/2019 01:23

It sounds more like he (or his family/culture) think he has failed because he doesn't earn enough to support his wife without her having to work. It's a bit "1950s" attitude, but if he's been raised and socialised to think a man must support his family and be the bread winner, it will be hard for him to understand why you need to work.
He probably thinks that you want to stay home (like his mum) and be provided for, and "keep house" while he goes to work, and just doesn't know how to deal with the culture clash almost of you being financially independent.

Nothininmenoggin · 22/02/2019 01:24

Honestly if I was you this would be a huge red flag flowing in my face. He has told you your career is meaningless and you have achieved nothing!! What makes you want to stay with a man like this? Culture is no excuse. I'd be off. Never mind him not wanting to get married now I think you should be telling him where to go.

Somethingsmellsnice · 22/02/2019 02:32

LTB.

Find someone who values you.
Value yourself - leave him to send money to his family if he wants but not yours!!

BarbaraofSevillle · 22/02/2019 06:25

Two issues at least. Do his family think you are very wealthy because you live in the UK? It can seem like untold riches to poorer countries, but obviously we have a high cost of living too. I assume that he can't afford to send the huge and repeated sums they seem to expect?

But him not wanting you to work is probably the bigger issue and may be a deal breaker as you will not be giving up your teaching career.

Dimsumlosesum · 22/02/2019 06:31

It doesn't matter what he thinks. At the end of your days if a person can look back and be content and at peace with their life choices, whatever they may be (career/housewife etc), that's all that matters, not doing something for someone else based purely on gaining their approval. I'm a sahm/housewife, I would've done anything to have had a career I loved. Many in society deem me to be a failure. I'm content with my choices however, it's just how life has worked out for me. But you have a career you love, which is a precious thing. It sounds like this is an issue that is possibly insurmountable for you both culturally. He will always see it as women need to be housewives to have "suceeded", which is fine for their culture (I won't be so arrogant as to say otherwise), but for our culture it's not the same.

Babygrey7 · 22/02/2019 06:34

You seem culturally incompatible

Bluntness100 · 22/02/2019 06:45

What does he do op?

I would assume his comments are defensiveness, he's trying to put you down because he thinks you're putting him and his down.

It's fairly shitty behaviour to be honest. Not sure I'd want to be in that for the long haul.

Ghanagirl · 22/02/2019 07:11

Also if you stop working who will pay the bills if he’s sending huge amounts of money home.

swingofthings · 22/02/2019 07:17

If it's Albania, why is he giving them Euros?

AJPTaylor · 22/02/2019 07:38

Honestly just read what you have written.if it's true there is only one sensible course of action.what would you tell one if your students?

Horsemenoftheaclopalypse · 22/02/2019 07:52

Honestly if I was you this would be a huge red flag flowing in my face. He has told you your career is meaningless and you have achieved nothing!! What makes you want to stay with a man like this? Culture is no excuse. I'd be off. Never mind him not wanting to get married now I think you should be telling him where to go.

This.
None of these problems will go away. Ever.
His family will continue to mooch off you and he will treat you with contempt because he doesn’t respect you and are considered as “less than”

Forgotmycoat · 22/02/2019 07:57

What he rather you do, give up your job and scrounge off YOUR brother? Like his sisters do?

There's no way you should marry him. His family will bleed you dry, you will argue about money all the time and he will make you feel like a failure.

Forgotmycoat · 22/02/2019 07:59

*what would he rather

He has no respect for you op, neither as a partner nor as a woman.

CoolJule43 · 22/02/2019 08:31

I agree with Babygrey7 that you are culturally incompatible.

It doesn't matter how much you think you love him, you and he are just totally unsuited to a life together because of his cultural beliefs.

You are an advanced skills teacher with a master's degree who loves her job and the kids you teach. You would be a great loss to the teaching profession. Think of all the children who would miss out if you left.

If it were me I would continue in your rewarding career and find myself a new partner who is supportive of it.

Kochicoo · 22/02/2019 08:35

Sorry OP, massive red flag and probably the tip of the iceberg. If he can say these hurtful things now, pre-marriage, imagine what he'll say afterwards. I've been there. You deserve far more

Shazafied · 22/02/2019 08:41

This problem is not going to go away. Run for the hills. You are not compatible. Don't marry the wrong person !!

adjsavedmylife · 22/02/2019 08:48

If you were to have a daughter together, what of her education? Would it be meaningless? Would he support her, help her? Consider the implications for a father that believes a woman’s worth is as a wife. Would he have very different ambitions for any brothers of hers and therefore treat them differently?

CoolJule43 · 22/02/2019 08:50

My partner is wonderful in every aspect however I'm managing one issue badly.

He is not wonderful in every aspect. He is not supportive of your career. He has clearly not made efforts to integrate and understand the culture of the country he has chosen to live in. He expects you to bow and accept his cultural beliefs. His views on the role of women aren't compatible with yours.
These are massive, insurmountable differences.

Why do you say this an issue you are managing badly? What about how your partner is managing the issue? You are already accepting blame as if your opinions are subordinate to his.

You say at the end now I don't know what to think but I think, deep down, you do. You are an intelligent woman and deserve so much more than the life your partner has planned for you.

Holidayshopping · 22/02/2019 08:52

If I was a good enough woman I’d have found a man who would let me stay at home.

I’m confused.

He is the man you’ve ‘found’, yes? Is he so loaded that you don’t have to work?!

He sounds like a total twat, OP!

HundredMilesAnHour · 22/02/2019 08:52

I couldn't miss this opportunity to drag out my favourite Lady Gaga quote. I hope it resonates.

This is a cultural dealbreaker, I guess on both sides to be honest. No matter how much you may love him, this is a huge red flag that things aren't going to work out for you both. He isn't even attempting to meet you in the middle here. It can't be easy putting up with his family's money demands but you OP seem to be trying to compromise which is very admirable (and not something I could do in this situation). But no signs of compromise from him.

If he said that he found it hard having a DP who worked because culturally he should be the provider so you having a good job is a mental struggle for him but he respected your career and how hard you work, maybe you would have a chance of working things out. But he clearly doesn't.

He thinks you're a 'failure as a woman'. I think that's bloody appalling. He's an absolute disgrace. That's the dealbreaker. Do you really want your DC exposed to someone who thinks like this? Do you really want to continue to expose yourself to this medieval thinking?

You have a career that he should be proud of. You're wasted on this man.

Career or housewife
Budsbegginingspringinsight · 22/02/2019 09:16

Great quote by Gaga.

OP you can't bridge this divide, you'll never stop him sending money home, you'll never get rid of this huge sense of entitlement etc....

Run for the hills.... don't accept this op you'll spend your life funding his family who look down on you.

Be careful though...he, they won't let their cash cow escape that easily.....

Watch dirty John... Netflix....

Budsbegginingspringinsight · 22/02/2019 09:19

This isn't one issues op either.

One issue would be .....he walks mud through the house... annoying but it's not impacting many other things... or he swigs directly from the milk bottle... those are one issues.
. this is a broad range of issues... bringing in plain abuse I'd say... sexism... financial abuse...