Skint Britain: Friends without Benefits on C4

[amrscot]

Is anybody else watching this?

One of the couples take their dog out to hunt rabbits and squirrels that they can eat.

They've just shown him with a dead rabbit he has caught skinning it in the kitchen

Horrendous..

UC is not an out of work benefit

UC is not an out of work benefit

UC is not an out of work benefit

UC is not an out of work benefit

UC is not an out of work benefit

UC is not an out of work benefit

UC is not an out of work benefit

Helena I agree its a point worth making but still.....

SGB, of course tax evasion is unlawful just like benefit fraud.
But if you punitively tax those who already pay the most tax then they are likely to move abroad.
The top 1% of earners already pay most of the tax this country receives. Learn some economics before you spout vitriol.
And if you got rid of private landlords where would all those current tenants live? Do you imagine that the tenants would somehow magic up deposits and be credit worthy enough to get a mortgage? And if they can't pay their rent regularly then they are unlikely to pay their mortgage and the house would be repossessed.
It is certainly the case (according to figures from the ONS) that more people are now in work than were before UC was introduced. Employment is at an all time high. So that is good.
Steve is right people work hard for what they have. Good for you Steve.
There is a lot of envy on this thread.

I really really cant wait for some of the affluent parents spouting their shit on here to be inadvertently affected by this..............once the childminders and nurseries start folding due to what ive posted upthread.

Imagine the whining AIBU from these parents once they are affected,

And what does ODFOD mean further upthread please? And what on earth is a "gaslighting fucknuckle?"
Can we not try and be civil to each other?

there is a lot of class discrimination on this thread I dont see any envy.

Calling people envious is being civil?

Helena. Calm down 🙄

You clearly referenced my comment in your post regarding the ‘working day’ and asked what about UC claimants who work nights. I merely pointed out that your article clearly stated the person in question was unemployed. Therefore he wouldn’t need to sleep during the day...

Once people realise they're fucked on UC they'll have no choice but to drop hours or work altogether.

If all the UC claimants stopped work tomorrow that would include, teachers, nurses, child minders, police officers, coffee shop workers, supermarket workers, street cleaners, receptionists, office workers, warehouse workers and just about everyone else.

You'd end up with very well paid people having to do all their own shit work and all the private landlords paying mortgages in houses they're getting no rent for.

Bring it on..

And where will all these people who have given up work live ?

Helena. Calm down

Stop gaslighting and being so fucking patronising

I was on New Deal in 2000 A bout of workfare then they were about to send me on a second bout of workfare when i found a night job in a sex chatline office. When i went to sign off the cheeky fuckers at Reed had the nerve to tell me they could find me better when the previous time they were going to send me to a soup factory for three months to work for my JSA. Took them THREE HOURS to get the paperwork together so i could sign off. (they clearly hadnt been too careful with it as they obviously assumed i was unemployable. THEN after i started at the office (working nights) apparently someone from Reed rocked up at the office during the DAY to ask questions. My then boss sent them away with a flea in their ear. i was fuming They could have lost me the job Which was probably their modus operandi because back then they got paid when ppl were on their books. They were obviously too bone idle to actually come during my shift.

I didnt put on the signing off form what the job was.

But i fucking well would do now if i was ever in that situation again

Yes the affluent parents who rely on childminders who claim tax credits or UC arent using benefits at all No sireee

Also goes to show they cant think much of their children if they are leaving them to be looked after by the working UC/tax credits claimants they despise so much.

Ditto their elderly relatives.

I don't get the Larry/Barry thing.

'Toni the tenant comes along, she'd have bought the house that Larry bought but she couldn't save enough deposit as the rent she's paying took 50% of her wage.'

It's not Larry stopping Toni from buying. Even if Larry hadn't bought it, Toni would still not have been able to afford it.

Fairenuff

Why can't Toni afford it?
Cause shes paying out 50% of her income in rents that are far beyond the LHA rates.
Who controls rents? Who decides what rent is set at per property? Is it Toni? Barry? Larry?

You could argue it's the 'market', I'd agree .
But who controls the rental market? Is it Toni? Barry? Larry?

It is certainly the case (according to figures from the ONS) that more people are now in work than were before UC was introduced. Employment is at an all time high. So that is good.

Three words - zero hours contracts. Someone who might have four hours a week (and I've seen these advertised) or no hours at quiet times (hospitality in January for instance) not to mention these are also poorly paid, but are still considered employed for those statistics. 'Employment at an all time high' leads to thoughts of the majority of people out in full time and decent paying jobs. That's not the case.

Brilliant idiot

Didn't the government also change how it counts unemployment?
They ignore large swathes of people so their figures look better than they are.

www.theguardian.com/business/2017/oct/29/sparkling-jobless-figures-mask-real-picture-uk-economy-unemployed

The Office for National Statistics count the number of people in work. No one claims that all jobs are full time and, of course many people, like parents with young children, prefer part time work.
Where did I say that all of the jobs are full time?
But it is still better to be working than claiming benefits. It is better for the person concerned to be contributing to their own living costs and contributing to the social fabric of the country. And it is better for the country to have more people in work.
You'd be complaining if the unemployment figures were going up and certainly if they were as high as Spain or Greece.