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To think the teachers must hate me! Aibu to refuse detention in these circumstances...

56 replies

Viperseverywhere · 11/02/2019 15:23

DD has additional needs and is classed as 'vulnerable' according to her own Senco and safeguarding.
We have an arrangement with the above as a result that she isn't to stay after school but is to be kept at lunch. All staff know this. It's a small school. Many don't take notice.

One of the reasons is that she already doesn't get home until 6pm as it's two buses and they finish later than normal schools and it's two buses (we live in a village) so if she misses her connecting bus she has to wait 50 minutes at a stop in the dark.
She also has toileting issues.
The other reason is she has been let go early daily as she has been being bullied.

She has completed a large chunk of a huge booklet (bare in mind she has a reader in exams and struggles greatly academically) but teacher has stated the pages she has done is not enough.

Just had a phone call that she is to have after school detention because she hasn't done enough.
WIBU to tell them no? Senco isn't in so there was confusion.
I will make her do the work of course!

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AryaStarkWolf · 11/02/2019 15:25

No of course you wouldn't, absolutely tell them no

Viperseverywhere · 11/02/2019 15:28

Sorry the OP is so badly written. I'm really not very well and massively stressed at the moment.

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Fraula · 11/02/2019 15:31

Say no and write a letter stating why this is the case.

I'd be infuriated in your position!

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 11/02/2019 15:31

I think you need to remind them about the agreed lunchtime rather than after school detention.

A polite but firm 'I'm sorry but that's not the arrangement we have agreed. Of course DD will do the detention but at lunchtime as agreed. I will not put her at risk by missing her bus.'

Home from school at 6pm? That is late. She must be knackered! Hope you get it sorted.

Fraula · 11/02/2019 15:32

When you feel better, ring the school and arrange a meeting with head of year as this needs to be nipped in the bud to avoid further stress for you and your child.

azulmariposa · 11/02/2019 15:33

Absolutely refuse!

If she has a reader in the actual exam, does she in the mocks? If not she should. She may also be entitled to extra time.

Viperseverywhere · 11/02/2019 15:34

She is knackered. There weren't other suitable options when we moved. Particularly for her needs.
So knackered in fact that Senco has sorted that she finishes half day at one one day mid week. Which makes the detention issue all the more annoying.

It's not actually that far mile wise but the traffic is horrendous at the time they finish and they finish much later than normal schools too.

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Viperseverywhere · 11/02/2019 15:39

Azul she has just had a reader put in place recently. She had a reading pen before that. She did not have the reader in recent mocks but did on her recent BTEC actual exam.

The lesson is question just gives them a huge booklet to complete in lesson.
My child has various learning needs including problems with language, comprehension, reading, writing, needing things broke down and processing so recieving a huge booklet and being told to work through it isn't ideal in the first place to be quite honest!

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Isadora2007 · 11/02/2019 15:49

Not unreasonable at all of you. No. That’s shocking.

AWishForWingsThatWork · 11/02/2019 15:53

A firm NO is needed. And a reminder that they need to refer to Senco and your agreement with the school over her special needs.

KHTeach · 11/02/2019 15:59

Definitely refuse. To be fair that's a genuine reason for detention in any case.

steppemum · 11/02/2019 16:06

No detention, it is simple, it is a safeguarding issue

noblegiraffe · 11/02/2019 16:08

Just remind them of the agreement that she doesn’t do after school detentions, and have it written into her IEP for future reference.

Paddingtonthebear · 11/02/2019 16:11

I would refuse and then request a face to appointment with head and senco, quite clearly they are not sticking to the agreement and I feel quite sorry for your DD, school sounds rather horrid for her.

Viperseverywhere · 11/02/2019 16:13

'and have it written into her IEP for future reference.'

Thanks Noble that's a good idea to get it written in.
Her Senco has told and emailed all staff repeatedly and it's a tiny school but even the year head rang me trying to give detention when she forgot her calculator last year (they have a one strike forgotten equipment rule, much fun when your child has awful organisation skills)

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Wolfiefan · 11/02/2019 16:17

Is it a detention or are they offering extra time to help her through it?
Still shouldn’t be after school if it’s been agreed she can’t stay after school.
If they use a computer system to set detentions etc can it be flagged up on there so teachers can’t set after school DTs?

Viperseverywhere · 11/02/2019 16:46

Detention Wolfie.
He put her name on the board on Friday because she hadn't done there she was meant to in the work book. She said she had and shown him, he said she hadn't .

Today after the call home she went to him and asked why she had detention. He said she hadn't done the book to where he wanted, again she has said she has. He's said she hadn't and left the classroom.

Safeguarding has told her to go home and do it at home. She still doesn't know where she is meant to do up to if where she has done is not enough.
I have emailed him but no reply yet.

DD is now refusing to go into his class (she's massively struggling in school at the moment ) and is spending a lot of time doing work with Senco due to the noise and sensory issues and anxiety.

She's usually well behaved at school btw. She rarely gets detention and it's always homework or equipment based because she struggles so much.

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Viperseverywhere · 11/02/2019 16:49

*where

Sorry for appalling grammar and writing. Im poorly.

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Viperseverywhere · 11/02/2019 16:50

Just to confirm no detention was given Friday.
He said she hadn't done it, she showed him she had.

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FrancisCrawford · 11/02/2019 16:51

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Paddingtonthebear · 11/02/2019 16:54

This is really sad for your DD. Sad

Foodylicious · 11/02/2019 16:57

So they have issued a detention for her not completing 'enough' work under their direct supervision???

Unless there are some specifics to do with what she was doing instead, I.e. chatting/messing around/ignoring teachers.... then they can f the f off!!!!

Viperseverywhere · 11/02/2019 17:00

I've only just been told about Friday by DD on the phone btw. Not drip feeding! I've since realised she left class early on Friday. I'm beginning to think there has been some missed communication after she had gone as she wasn't the only one on the board.

Making her do the work wasn't an issue as I said in the original OP.
It was the staying after school.

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RomanyQueen1 · 11/02/2019 17:04

YANBU, it's not like you are saying the detention shouldn't happen.
There are lots of reasons why after school detentions don't work for some families.
I have to admit though, one of our dc was unable after school, and when I explained they said only too happy to make it at lunch time.
It wasn't often though, think only once.

KHTeach · 11/02/2019 17:06

Op don't worry. Just write a letter stating that you refuse your child to do the detention. Teachers I can tell you really do have worse things to be upset over.

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