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To worry that free bus passes won't exist in the future

154 replies

Downtroddenhousingass · 09/02/2019 08:21

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6685043/Half-bus-routes-scrapped-650million-blackhole-boom-free-passes.html#article-6685043

Looks like they are already having issues with funding them now. I've still got 30 years until I get mine.

The scheme might be gone by then I'm worried

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Girlsnightin · 09/02/2019 09:02

OP you have 30 years to pay into a pension so you can afford your retirement. If you are planning on relying on the state to fund it, you'll get a nasty shock. No bus pass will be the least of your worries!

Downtroddenhousingass · 09/02/2019 09:05

How on earth am I supposed to pay into a pension when I can't even afford to pay my rent and heat the flat BiscuitBiscuit

I'm really looking forward to unlimited travel when I retire

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Hotterthanahotthing · 09/02/2019 09:06

I will be entitled to my free bus pass in a few years.Unfortunatly,being in a small rural town there are very few buses to catch and there is talk of those being removed.They have only had a reprieve because no kids would be able to get to a 6th form college.

Ifailed · 09/02/2019 09:06

I suspect that the only use for a bus in 30 years time is somewhere to live, being made of metal it will offer some protection from raiders armed with bows & arrows and rocks.

YouBumder · 09/02/2019 09:09

The scheme might be gone by then I'm worried

Lol you can’t be serious? I couldn’t give a shiny shite if they get rid of it or means test it. I hate buses and if they paid me to use them I still wouldn’t unless it was an emergency.

I really think they should means test it though I know plenty of comfortably off pensioners who don’t need it and just use it for gallivanting around on their jollies because they can.

Downtroddenhousingass · 09/02/2019 09:10

So because you don't care, you belittle people that do care Hmm

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bsc · 09/02/2019 09:10

As they're axing bus services in many areas, there's really no point in having a free pass! "Unlimited" travel? Well, only within your network (so forty miles max, maybe?) and only after 9:30...

YouBumder · 09/02/2019 09:10

Sorry forgot to add YABU and completely ridiculous to be worried about something so trivial 30 years away

Girlsnightin · 09/02/2019 09:13

Do you work OP?

Boysandbuses · 09/02/2019 09:14

You do realise it's not unlimited free travel don't you?

YouBumder · 09/02/2019 09:14

How on earth am I supposed to pay into a pension when I can't even afford to pay my rent and heat the flat

Seriously, worry about that then! Having no income in retirement is going to be a considerably bigger detriment to you than having no bus pass!

YouBumder · 09/02/2019 09:15

You do realise it's not unlimited free travel don't you?

It is here.

Anyway OP policiticans always suck up to pensioners so you might be Ok.

Thesinisterdiagram · 09/02/2019 09:15

Unless you’re heavily disabled, why not work on changing your situation over the next 30 years. So then you won’t need to worry about whether you get a free bus pass or not?

Boysandbuses · 09/02/2019 09:17

It is here.

Really because here it's only certain areas that you can travel to. So sometimes are out and after 9.30am (might be 9) it also so is the neighbouring area, as MIL has one.

So not unlimited.

CecilyP · 09/02/2019 09:17

In Scotland it is, Boys, and you don’t even have to be a pensioner to be entitled, just over 60.

TowandaForever · 09/02/2019 09:17

I read that buses are the only form of public transport that don't have a national plan.

I also don't understand why the services are being reduced when it's so much better for the environment for people to travel by bus?

MissConductUS · 09/02/2019 09:18

New York City just introduced subsidized transit passes (they work on both buses and the tube), but they're income tested and half price, not free.

New York City rolls out Fair Fares transit program for low-income residents

LakieLady · 09/02/2019 09:23

I'm still pissed off that I won't get mine till I'm 66, but friends in Kent got theirs at 60.

I'd use the car a lot less if I had a free bus pass.

SayMehToTheDress · 09/02/2019 09:24

So many things will change by then, its really not worth worrying about it. There will have been so many changes in government and benefits and your personal circumstances could be different.

PoppyFleur · 09/02/2019 09:25

How on earth am I supposed to pay into a pension when I can't even afford to pay my rent and heat the flat

How are you going to retire with no pension? My concern is there will be no state pension at retirement age, which by then will be 70 years (and maybe even more. Which is something far more concerning.

My parents generation were all retired by 60 and they hadn’t spent their working life in an ‘always on’ 24x7 work environment with smart phones, laptops etc. Our nervous system will be frazzled by 60 and we will still have another 10 years to work...

YouBumder · 09/02/2019 09:29

Yes really @boysandbuses. We’re in Scotland and it’s free unlimited travel all over Scotland at any time. My parents have been all over the place!

Boysandbuses · 09/02/2019 09:30

Ok, op do you live in Scotland?

mydogisthebest · 09/02/2019 09:36

I don't drive and the buses are expensive so I was looking forward to getting mine at 60. Of course our wonderful government changed all that so I am now 64 and won't get it until I am 66. That's of course if it still exists then

LakieLady · 09/02/2019 09:38

@Towanda Buses used to have something resembling a national plan (there was at least co-operation between operators where routes overlapped) but Thatcher deregulated them. Companies competed for the lucrative routes andweren't interested in the ones that didn't make a profit.

Because bus companies couldn't use the profit from lucrative routes to subsidise the non-profitable ones, the latter got cut, unless local councils chose to subsidise them and now that council funding has been cut so much, councils often withdraw or reduce the subsidy to make savings.

Our local service used to be half-hourly buses from 6.50 in the morning until 7.10 in the evening. Now they're hourly, don't start till 7.40 and the last bus back from town is at about 5.40pm. All the commuters now drive (and pay £6 a day to park) or get driven to the station and picked up again in the evening, because the buses start too late and finish too early for the busiest trains. Between 7 & 8 in the morning, the station pick up are is chaos.

Bus passes will be irrelevant in rural areas soon, because the service will be so infrequent that they'll be next to useless.

paintinmyhairAgain · 09/02/2019 09:41

cptartapp what are all these non means tested and allowances that the elderly get ? my dm could do with some extra help as she has no savings except a funeral plan, her pension and pension credit just about cover her living costs.

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