To think most people in the UK don't really care about NI

[Tooldemont]

Just that really, we don't seem to be a together nation and many people I know would just prefer Ireland to become one country on that landmass.

Maybe it's just my circles, but rings true here

The ignorance is astounding. Those that don't live in Ireland, some who have never even visited and those that know fuck all about our history think they can comment! The IRA bombings hmmm why was the IRA formed in the first place. I'm sick of hearing that it was one sided. I witnessed what the British army did in Ireland. Lives destroyed, family's destroyed and yeah it was because some people were Catholic and some were Protestant. Fuckn boils my blood

You're on the wind up now donmess
Wind your neck in

Don't threaten me.

Pmsl

Wow! If that’s the attitude of the Irish then I’m glad the NI are different!

(I know not all Irish are like this)

I think Donmess is a message from above to remind us appalled by Brexiteers that there are ignorant eejits from Ireland too. Twattishness knows no borders!
I don’t think it’s any secret that most people, UK and Ireland, don’t give a shit about NI. I do feel a bit sorry for those in NI who feel fiercely British or Irish, given their passion is rarely reciprocated. For me, I’ve had whatever passport suits best practically throughout my life, and one thing I did feel passionately a member of was the EU, because it broke down the importance of borders, and is at heart, as Tusk said, a peace project.

Charming attitude from some ROI people here. I grew up in Tyrone now NI. In 1919 it voted for independence like all but 4 counties in Ireland. It was annexed into NO to create a state for colonial settlers.

My grandfather was born before partition. He was as Irish as anyone in the rest of the island and did not suddenly stop being Irish. I do think the creation of NI was a crime and this thread shows why reimposing that border cannot happen. NI was slowly starting to become a bit more normal but this has set it back a hundred years. But please do not think that NI people are all like the DUP or Sinn Fein. Many of us never asked to be part of it, never wanted it and don’t understand why we can’t be part of a normal country not a colonial throwback.

@Donmesswime

I'm glad that the biggest problem most people in NI is there postcode because compared to your lack of empathy, humanity and civility you have much greater things to be worried about.

God help anyone who comes across your vile tongue irl (though I would hazard a guess your a wee keyboard warrior and could hold and educated debate for love nor money)

Good luck to you in life (and more importantly those who know you)

*their

Is every Londoner a knife wielding criminal?
Is every Welshman a singer?
Is everyone the same as the plonker politicians we currently have leading us down a frankly embarrassing pathway that is currently making us the laughing stock of the world?

The level of nonsense, bigotry, lack of basic knowledge and quite frankly common courtesy for fellow countrymen is astounding. And very very sad.
Some of the posters on this thread are sad little creatures who need to go give their heads a wobble.

Zzzzz....the people in Scotland are being dragged out against their will? I'm Scottish and can say they are not. A hard border with England - never! The only reason remain got the vote it did in Scotland was because of the SNP propaganda machine making it known that a vote different to the rest of the UK could be the catalyst needed for yet another bloody independence referendum.
I hate it when people make sweeping statements about "all of Scotland" voted to remain. No we bloody well didn't.

Eyewhisker - Just want to say that I don't think that poster's comments are representative at all. Many Irish people do care about NI and if they decided in a democratic vote that they want unification, I'm certain ROI would go for it too. The polls show as much. Of course there are concerns and it would have to be well planned, but it can happen.

Rich - it's quite clear Scotland is being pulled out against the will of 62% of its people. Clearly you're one of the 38%, but your opinion doesn't override the facts.

I hate it when people make sweeping statements about "all of Scotland" voted to remain. No we bloody well didn't

N Sturgeon's favourite phrase - 'The Scottish People blah blah blah ....'
No missus, not this Scottish person.

There are loads of Scots south of the border, do they count the votes on where it was cast or where the voter lives?

If we're a little bitty island with nothing to sell then what exactly is Ireland after a No Deal Brexit?

We (ROI) are a member state of the worlds most powerful trading block. HTH.

The UK haven't noticed (because they can't pay attention to anything but their own shitshow) but ROI has been very busy since brexit taking steps to diversify their export bases.

It's generally agreed now that being less dependent on GB is a very positive step for us in the long run.

And guess what, we have loads of strong trade agreements already in place to enable us.

Well, I'm sure UK can diversify its export base too.

Silkie - you'll need some trade deals in place first...

Donmesswime
I'm Irish and briefly lived in Carrickfergus. I now live in London.
I want nothing to do with NI people as an Irish person. They're just different. I actually can't think of a European country so far removed from Irishness as NI.
Spanish are like us. NI are more like former Soviet Union states tbh.

You lived in Carrick though. It's a DUP stronghold. I can't imagine it feeling very Irish there either. Ever been to Derry? Newry? Tyrone?

I was in croke park this September. My son's play gaelic. My niece used in the world championships. Are the people in donegal and Dublin the same as each other? Just how Irish do you need us to be?

Someone up thread mentioned lower salaries here... Well that's true. But shit costs less here, so...

I'm astounded at the ignorance of very recent history on this thread Oh let's just ignore that wee bit away over there...whatcha call it? IORLAND

Of course the politicians forgot about it to be fair. If I was in Northern Ireland or Ireland I would be out with the placard. I think we are in very dodgy water here.

Positively don't know what's with the sarcasm. Most people I know feel exactly the same.

For people saying the solution is a united ireland - oh dear, now you're talking clueless.

I think it’s bought to the fore again what a strange position NI is in. UK don’t want it, not sure it ever has. Ireland doesn’t want it either. It’s very weird to have an island divided with a border. All are Irish.

I don’t know when the day will come to move forward, surely the only way is to make it all Ireland? Yet many residents would be so deeply unhappy about that. And Ireland is not willing either.

I’m an Irish citizen and I go up to NI regularly to see friends. Lovely place, lovely people, most people just getting in with their lives like anywhere else. Unfortunately it’s the small minority that let them down, the same as every other country.

When I visit NI it doesn’t feel Irish to me. There are visible signs of sectarianism and that’s going to take time to heal. There is little appetite for taking on NI in Ireland because it would be expensive, difficult, and most importantly, the majority of NI do not want it. Why would we trample over their autonomy for the sake of some grand ideology of a United Ireland?

If that changed, then I think we would have a duty to reunify but in order for that to happen the people of NI would have to want it.

I feel sorry for unionists in NI, most of whom are normal people and not a reflection of the DUP, because it’s like watching someone in an abusive relationship. They identify so much as British and Westminster are failing them.

Similarly, hard for nationalists (most who are anti violence and abhor the actions of the IRA) to hear Irish people say they don’t want them.