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To get back with my ex even though he paid no maintenance?

63 replies

Messyisthenewtidy · 04/02/2019 20:34

Here is the short version:

We split up when DS was 2, the relationship was on and off for about 5 years, my fault entirely because he always wanted us to get back together but I couldn’t commit. I’m not proud of myself but in the times we were split I did date other people (as did he) and this made things so much worse.

The real reason behind my fear of commitment though is that he had a temper (not physical but verbal) I always felt anxious around him, always on guard and not knowing when he would blow up. He would often accuse me of trying to belittle him. An example: We were having a discussion about religion. I disagreed with his viewpoint, he blew up at me and called me a f&%!ng bitch for doubting his intelligence ( I wasn’t, I was just more agnostic than him).

I did love him and wanted things to work out for DS but couldn’t put up with his paranoia and outbursts which were always sporadic enough to lull me into a false sense of security and doubt myself.
He was always reluctant to pay maintenance and I had to go through CSA. Part of me felt annoyed, part of me didn’t blame him because it was never his choice to split.

When Ds was 7 he left to go back to his home country. Stayed in touch via email (not great expressive emails, just one or two sentences) but he didn’t send a single penny to support DS and I was too scared of his anger to force it. Besides I didn’t know where he lived.

10 years later, we’ve re-connected and he’s visited once. We got on really well and have stayed in constant contact online. I feel that we’ve changed and are more mature and we have so much in common still. DS is older and although he’s not keen on talking to him at first, they always get on well once the ice is broken. I also understand his outbursts more as DS was diagnosed with Asperger’s and I suspect strongly that he has this too.

AIB a complete muggins to even consider trying things again? We’ve talked about issues such as his temper and although he apologised I don’t think he really gets it as he thinks such arguments are part and parcel of a relationship. I even got the courage to ask him why he never paid maintenance. His answer was that DS could always live with him if I wanted him to and he wouldn’t have asked for any money from me. It sounds so reasonable.

Am I being a complete idiot to even consider it? Is it possible that time and maturity have changed us? Or is paying no maintenance all these years something that I shouldn’t forgive? I can’t seem to get past that bit. But then perhaps it was unfair to expect it of him.

Sorry for long ramble. It could have been a lot longer!

OP posts:
mamaslave18 · 04/02/2019 20:37

Yes you would be a complete muggins.

Yes you would be a complete idiot.

burritofan · 04/02/2019 20:38

You know the answer to this already, I think.

He thinks it's ok and normal to call his partner a fucking bitch. He didn't pay maintenance and has no repentance for that. He hasn't changed, isn't going to change, and whatever charm he's laying on now will disappear as soon as you're reeled back in.

There are plenty of other good men in the world, why settle for one who sets the bar so very, very low?

Baby1onboard11 · 04/02/2019 20:39

Regardless of whether you’d be a mug or not, I think the main person to consider is your son and how awfully unfair it would be to get back with his father when chances are it’ll end in misery again.

user1493413286 · 04/02/2019 20:41

I wouldn’t go anywhere near; there is no indication he’s changed or regrets any of his behaviour so what makes you think he won’t repeat it again.
I thought I was going to read that he was sorry and regrets what he did etc (even then I wouldn’t have been sure) but he doesn’t regret it at all and I’m not sure why you think he’s changed.
Sorry to sound harsh but that’s how it sounds

Inliverpool1 · 04/02/2019 20:42

Fgs really ? I wouldn’t touch him with a barge pole

OopsInamechangedagain · 04/02/2019 20:43

He was always reluctant to pay maintenance and I had to go through CSA. Part of me felt annoyed, part of me didn’t blame him because it was never his choice to split

What on earth has that got to do with anything? Anyone who punishes their own child for the other parent's actions is a scumbag.

Maybe it's just a coincidence that he's reappeared just as DS is reaching adulthood soon (and therefore no more CMS liability) Hmm

FortunesFave · 04/02/2019 20:44

Is he paying towards his child now then? No?

Oh...well that indicates he's not changed as much as you think.

SushiMonster · 04/02/2019 20:44

Fucks sake obviously don’t get back with him!

ArfArfBarf · 04/02/2019 20:45

Maintenance aside, do you really want to spend the rest of your life pretending he’s not stupid?

missymayhemsmum · 04/02/2019 20:45

You might get on, but everything that has happened shows that you could never trust him, never rely on him, never relax around him unless you wanted to be shouted at. He has missed out on the chance to be a father to your ds and you can't change that.
Be civil. Even be friends- he obviously has qualities you value, and it's good if he can build a relationship wth your son. But back off fast from any kind of romantic relationship with him, for your own sanity.

Idontbelieveinthemoon · 04/02/2019 20:47

This is a person who you've been scared of in the past? You'd be absolutely batshit crazy to go near him. He's obviously feeling a little lonely and wants a bit of an ego boost from you. Tell him to get fucked. He's acknowledged no fault or part in the breakdown of your relationship, nor has he made amends for the fact that he pissed off and left his child without a backwards glance.

I'd worry more that you've set your standards so low that you're willing to have anything to do with such a knob jockey, to be truthful.

Messyisthenewtidy · 04/02/2019 20:47

Yes, I do worry about DS. But he is nearly grown up and so little affects him in terms of relationships.

Gosh, it's just that I've been so ill recently and he's been so caring and attentive. We get on so well. I can't imagine meeting someone else who I'm so close with.

Sometimes I think I'm just scared of going out into the wide world and ending up alone. I put off dating for years after DS's diagnosis because I knew he needed a lot more attention. Now it seems impossible.

Oh I've really messed things up.

OP posts:
Seline · 04/02/2019 20:48

This screamed Aspergers to me before I even got to that, I have ADHD and likely Aspergers myself and have dated men with Aspergers too and DS1 looks like he may have it.

You're not a mug but you need to decide if you can live with it. Aspies don't change, we're not the easiest people to get along with. If you can enjoy the positives and look past the negativesa and compromise a lot then go for it but don't do it expecting him to be different.

AnyFucker · 04/02/2019 20:50

Get that "muggins" tattoo booked straight away

There are millions of men in the world. Some of them are even half decent.

Messyisthenewtidy · 04/02/2019 20:51

there is no indication he’s changed or regrets any of his behaviour so what makes you think he won’t repeat it again.

Well he has acknowledged that he was too needy and clingy and put it down to him not having family or friends over here. So I do buy that. It's just what he thinks is part of arguing in a normal healthy relationship I think was bordering on the abusive.

But yes you are right MN, I know I shouldn't. I'm just so weak and romantically naive to think we could make it work..

OP posts:
Purpleartichoke · 04/02/2019 20:51

This is a man who didn’t take an active role in parenting his own child and neglected to financially support his child? No sane person on the planet would consider dating a man who does that. I know there are plenty of deadbeat dads with girlfriends out there, so the only conclusion I can reach is that there are a lot of women out there who are not sane.

FortunesFave · 04/02/2019 20:53

His answer was that DS could always live with him if I wanted him to and he wouldn’t have asked for any money from me

And that sounds like the reasoning of a complete idiot. Obviously your infant son wouldn;t have gone to live with him in another country.

Obviously decent men provide for their children whether resident or not.

Jackshouse · 04/02/2019 20:54

Would you be a mug to get back together in a relationship that has already failed with a man who is is emotionally abusive and does not financially support his own child.

YES, YES, YES.

Seline · 04/02/2019 20:54

It would likely work better if you lived in separate houses by the way.

If it is Aspergers I can guarantee it's not manipulation or intentional malice like some are suggesting.

Idontbelieveinthemoon · 04/02/2019 20:54

If you can enjoy the positives and look past the negatives

What positives? OP has listed all the awful ways he treated her and their DS, and you want her to weigh up the good versus the bad? I can do that for you, OP, and it's all bad.

I have a DS with ASD and have nothing but sympathy for anyone raising a child with ASD. You have to work your backside off non-stop and the fact that he left you alone to raise his child should make you furious. Raise the bar, please.

Messyisthenewtidy · 04/02/2019 20:56

There are millions of men in the world. Some of them are even half decent

Yes but no one is knocking down my door. I'm pushing 50, no money, average looking, I've been so ill recently. In short I'm not exactly a catch!

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NotANotMan · 04/02/2019 20:57

Romantically naive? Really? You're a mother and a grown woman, you have no excuse to be romantically naive about a man who was emotionally abusive and never paid a penny towards the upkeep of his child. You're not a moony teenager, grow up.

Seline · 04/02/2019 20:57

Idont

Whatever positives the OP enjoys about this man. No one here can say really as it's her choice but she needs the full knowledge that aspies are just how they are and their behaviour comes from a different place than if an NT did it however that doesn't necessarily make it easy to accept and only OP can decide that.

Incidentally I broke up with a man with Aspergers who I'm still friends with, because I, also an aspie, couldn't deal with the specific traits that he had. Its fine either way she just needs to be informed.

Idontbelieveinthemoon · 04/02/2019 20:58

If it is Aspergers I can guarantee it's not manipulation or intentional malice like some are suggesting.

How can you possibly claim this? You sincerely believe that every single person with Aspergers can't possibly behave intentionally unkindly or maliciously? Anyone can be malicious, anyone can be unkind, anyone can be abusive. Aspergers might make life harder in relationships because of an inability to perhaps empathise or understand, but it never, never justifies abuse. To pretend that it does simply minimises the abuse that the OP's Ex put her through, and absolves him of any of his wrongs.

kaytee87 · 04/02/2019 20:59

I can't imagine why you'd want to be with a man who's temper was so bad he made you nervous, was verbally abusive and didn't see fit to support his child.
I say this with kindness, do you have self esteem issues?

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