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Was I naive?

47 replies

Beenaroundtheworld19 · 28/01/2019 14:13

Two years ago, I became increasingly close to a colleague . We just got into a habit of nightly weekend messaging ... started with funny memes etc and progressed to deeper talks . I am older and married. He is single . I would listen/ advise etc about relationships: general life stuff . Great fun, no worries at all . Messaging got more intense in quantity and in quality and then came the personal and professional compliments . No harm in that I thought. I am married. He knows this. I continue to speak casually about my husband and children on a daily basis.

Chats became deeper... his struggles with commitment and sexuality . I thought he was bi and encouraged him to enjoy his life exploring who he is . He gets more complimentary towards me ..on the physical angle . I was very flattered but in no way attracted to him physically . I got the impression that he maybe admired me and respected me . I encouraged flings and relationships and as he struggles with his sexuality, I tried to encourage him to accept who he is and embrace himself .
In the meantime , he meets a girl ... she seems lovely . The more information he tells me, the more I realise how desperate and needy she is. She has had a series of disasterous relationships , basically emotional abuse and her sexual vulnerability abused also .

My friend meanwhile tells me that he doesn’t have sex anymore as he realises that he doesn’t like it . That’s fine . He has told his girlfriend . She is quite sexual he tells me , but has agreed to a sexless relationship . Also fine . His own business . He also tells her that he wants a slow relationship eg meet whenever he is free . She is fine with this too. Lovely . Not my business . However , he asks my opinion and I gave it . I told him that I think he is using her as a convenience and is settling for someone who will not put sexual or personal demands on him as long as she is in a relationship . She has lived with men since she was 18 years old. Is now in her late 20’s and asked my friend out a month after an eight year relationship ended . Has chased him for the last year .

My problem is that he continues to message all through the day and while I have really detached , he is pursuing the friendship more and more . I do not want to be this close anymore . We work together all day long . He talks about his girlfriend by dropping her name into conversation sometimes .almost like he is trying to convince me of his intentions.. which are none of my business . I was honest. I think he doesn’t care too much about her whereas she adores him but I understand why a man would settle with a woman who doesn’t put demands on him , however wrong and awful it is on her . My feelings towards him have changed . I dont seem to respect him as much anymore and I really dislike listening to all the excuses he tells me demonstrating how everybody else is a priority except for this girl but painting it like he is a knight in shining armour who has saved her from a life of misery .

To conclude , am I naive to think that this man is genuine albeit with serious issues or is he a player who was inappropriate and trying to get his ego fed at any expense?any advice on how to move away from him without leaving my precious and much loved job ...

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GruciusMalfoy · 28/01/2019 14:17

This all sounds a bit like a soap opera. Just text him back less and less. Keep it less personal. Tell him you're busy doing family stuff.

Bombardier25966 · 28/01/2019 14:21

Forget psychoanalysing and gradually cut down/ off contact.

Beenaroundtheworld19 · 28/01/2019 14:22

Thanks for your response . Yes it does sound like a soap opera but every single word of it is the truth. I explained to him some months ago that I thought lines were being crossed and that I needed him to understand that I need to be more boundaried. He responded with increased contact . I spoke with him again and he responded better . I feel very rude not responding to messaging so I leave it at TIL the next evening by which stage, he has messaged another 5 times . I think he might like his ego boosted more than a friendship . Would that be fair to think?

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Parthenope · 28/01/2019 14:24

He's just using you as an emotional dumping ground, or that thing men often do where they expect women to explain them to themselves, or 'solve' them. Just slow down on responding to his messages, and tell him you don't want to act as his confidante about his relationship any more -- until you're back to a level of friendship you're comfortable with, if any.

I must say, though, that you sound as if you were happy with this level of intimacy while he was paying compliments to you and listening to your relationship advice -- I think it was your ego that was being fed as much as his. Now his attention is on this other woman, and he's no longer taking your advice, you realise you put up with his endless boring emotional offloading because of the flattery.

Beenaroundtheworld19 · 28/01/2019 14:28

Yes parthenope.... you may be right. I felt like an emotional dumping ground . I do enjoy the compliments.yes i was flattered. Perhaps you are right! Thanks for helping me see things a bit clearer

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DoneLikeAKipper · 28/01/2019 14:30

So you actively encouraged him to talk to you about his sexual activity, and now you’re fed up of it? Seems to me you were trying to play ‘hero’ to his sexual life/live vicariously through him, and now he’s in a relationship/possibly asexual, you’re bored of him.

ladybirdsaredotty · 28/01/2019 14:30

Honestly, I'd just detach a bit (or a lot). Sounds like too much hard work.

RightOh · 28/01/2019 14:35

You sound way over invested in the bloke!

Just reply less, don't give your opinions, change the subject when you do talk. Keep it professional.

Beenaroundtheworld19 · 28/01/2019 14:35

No donelikeakipper, I am not bored of him. I was supporting him as I saw it . Encouraging him to explore his sexuality and enjoy it . I have no interest in being his hero . I would like him to have a fulfilled life . I gave him my opinion as asked. He didn’t like it but instead of us getting on with our friendship as normal , he is constantly trying to prove what a great guy he is and what a saviour to his girlfriend he is . I know it’s bullshit and I don’t want to listen to it anymore .

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DoneLikeAKipper · 28/01/2019 14:38

I don’t want to listen to it anymore

Then don’t. Not entirely sure what advice you’re looking for here. You were over invested, now he’s a disappointment to you. I’m not sure what’s keeping you from just moving on.

Beenaroundtheworld19 · 28/01/2019 14:41

I work with him all day every day in a stifling office environment . So that’s why I find it hard to know what to do

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Ethel36 · 28/01/2019 14:53

Just stop replying. Say you were too busy. You're over invested in their relationship and it doesn't sound healthy at all. This is not a normal work collegue relationship.

CaptainMarvelDanvers · 28/01/2019 14:55

Does your husband know about this relationship and the extent of what you were talking about with this guy?

It sounds like the relationship you had with him was inappropriate from both sides.

You need to change the subject whenever he brings it up and you need to start moving your relationship into professional only. if he doesn’t get the hints then you have to be blunt and tell him that you want to change the dynamic as you have both perhaps crossed boundaries.

Fairenuff · 28/01/2019 14:57

You talk about everything under the sun, his sexuality and your own life yet you can't say that it's becoming too stifling?

TooTrueToBeGood · 28/01/2019 14:57

To conclude , am I naive to think that this man is genuine albeit with serious issues or is he a player who was inappropriate and trying to get his ego fed at any expense?

Does it really matter? You're not his mother, counsellor, life coach or agony aunt.

any advice on how to move away from him without leaving my precious and much loved job ...

Have a brief chat. Tell him you're sorry but this whole situation has evolved into something you really don't want to be part of any more. You've got your own life to look after and never intended to become so involved in his. You're happy to remain friends in the workplace but the out-of-hours and personal texts/calls need to stop. End of story.

Blobby10 · 28/01/2019 14:58

Beenaroundtheworld19 I've fallen into the same trap as you more than once. On my part it was a genuine desire to help and it got way deeper than that. The second time it happened, the only way I got some respite was when the other person fell in love and was way too busy being part of a couple to text me. Still got bombarded at work for what seemed like hours every day with the problems and issues in the relationship but at least it didn't encroach on my non-work time.

The only way is to gradually detach but its really hard! I found that a part of me still wanted to be appreciated and sought guidance and opinions from. It made me feel better about myself. Fortunately I've learned other, less destructive ways to feel better about myself nowadays. Good luck detaching!

Beenaroundtheworld19 · 28/01/2019 14:59

Thank you Ethel. You are right . It is not. It has developed into a sort of habit where we message eachother every single day and at weekends . This is the ideal time to pull away from the friendship , when he Is seeing a girl . Maybe I could say that I feel we have too much contact and that while my husband doesn’t mind it, his new girlfriend may not appreciate our level of contact? He has anxiety and lately he seems to be very anxious so I don’t want to add to that , at this time .wgile I seem to have lost respect for him, I do not want to hurt him . Until now, I was the person he spoke to about his sexuality . I feel now that his girlfriend is aware and accepting, it is time for me to walk away , iykwim ? it was a cause of great stress to him

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Beenaroundtheworld19 · 28/01/2019 15:02

Thank you everyone. Lots of crossed posted there. I appreciate all of your advice . Yes I find it hard to be blunt about it . I do not want to hurt him either .

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MinisterforCheekyFuckery · 28/01/2019 15:03

I must say, though, that you sound as if you were happy with this level of intimacy while he was paying compliments to you and listening to your relationship advice -- I think it was your ego that was being fed as much as his.

This is spot on. It's no coincidence that you suddenly began to find the 'friendship' all a bit too much when he got a girlfriend and disclosed that he may be asexual.

I have to say it sounds like a very odd "friendship". I'm also married and would never feel it was my place to tell a single male colleague to "explore their sexuality" and encourage their "flings". If an older, married man was doing this with a young single female at work they would be called a letch and accused of using the messages as masturbation material.

Regardless of your conscious/unconscious motivations, you clearly realise now it all went too far and you want out. Short of outright telling him you don't want to be friends outside of work anymore, your only other option is to stop responding to the messages and hope he gets the hint.

Beenaroundtheworld19 · 28/01/2019 15:06

I was encouraging him, as I would any female friend . Our friendship is not typical of a colleague relationship. We are more close friends than colleagues

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Melroses · 28/01/2019 15:07

I don’t want to listen to it anymore - Then don’t

Does it really matter? You're not his mother, counsellor, life coach or agony aunt

^^ Good advice.

A friend got over invested in a relationship with an older man that turned inappropriate, even though he said that it was not going that way...………Hmm. He got nasty. Make sure you have good support, but yes, stop doing it.

HollowTalk · 28/01/2019 15:19

I would say "Off to watch a film with DH" or "Just going out with DH" every single evening now so that you're not free to chat. Ignore all messages. How your husband puts up with it I don't know - or does he not know the nature of the messages?

HeebieJeebies456 · 28/01/2019 15:32

I bet there's no girlfriend!
I think he's making it up to appear to look 'normal' due to his other issues/insecurities.....or he was hoping to make you jealous/gauge your reaction?

Beenaroundtheworld19 · 28/01/2019 15:52

I do t discuss my friends sexuality or issues with my husband or any of my friends issues or problems either . He definitely has a girlfriend and he is made up to have found someone who has agreed to the terms of the relationship that he has placed . He has never sustained a relationship before because of these issues he said .he has no romantic interest in me whatsoever

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Beenaroundtheworld19 · 28/01/2019 16:07

From your responses, I think i was an emotional dumpin g ground for him . I enjoyed being an emotional support to him, advising him and I was flattered by his kind compliments. I think I have served my purpose as far as being a support to him . He has chosen to ignore advice as is his prerogative and I totally respect that but I don’t really want to be convinced of his honourable intentions etc as it is not my business. What I was trying to explain was that it was not my business or interest how he treats his girlfriend but he continuously tries to almost convince me that he treats her so well etc when I don’t really care and his actions speak louder then words . I feel awful even typing that as she is a sweet girl . I dont know if I am even making sense in my post

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