To think that the UK police have no right to "check our thinking"?

[HawayMan]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6636383/Twitter-user-investigated-police-posting-poem-social-media-site.html

Yes, its a DM link; however, the Guardian and BBC don't seem to be covering this story yet...

From the article...

A Twitter user is planning to complain to the Home Secretary after police investigated him for retweeting a poem which suggested transgender women are still men.

Harry Miller is furious at his ‘Orwellian’ treatment by an officer who rang to check his ‘thinking’ after he had ‘liked’ a limerick

In better news, I'm planning on moving to Humberside. Clearly, there must be no actual crime there!

Pretty much allowed under hate crime legislation, though. I really think we are completely submerged in an Orwellian dystopia.

Hefzi If not yet submerged, certainly going under fast.

YANBU. Absolutely fucking ridiculous.

worridmum those things are not the same. Your examples are promoting violence. Saying that transwomen are still men isn't.

Worridmum That sounds like incitement to violence: although the poem in question was badly written, it wasn't inciting violence, it was saying that men don't have real breasts or vaginas. Biological fact. Not a crime. The next time I get some misogynistic ranting on Twitter, will Humberside police be interested in it? The other day I was told that I'm fat, ugly and destined to die alone with only cats for company as I'm a feminazi. Should I run to the police and get them to investigate?

Nope, still not the same thing, worridmum. No one is forced to believe that transwomen are women, and the poem didn't mention anything about transwomen being 'evil fuckers'.

*nature.

Gah i did not want to bring sexuality into this arguement but you forced my hand. As the above statement is 100% factaully true but is highly offensive.

worriedmum tell us please what was in the tweet that wasn't true? Or that incited violence?
Or is that someone had hurty feelings because the re-tweeter refuses to believe the bollocks that biological men can become biological women?
I, for one, certainly object to scarce police resources being used to perpetuate this shite.

Being "Offensive" should not be a crime, saying you will do something as a result or encouraging others to take some kind of action - should be a crime.

EG saying Jesus was the result of Mary being raped by a Roman is offensive but fine. But saying you should go and paint Jesus is a liar on all Church buildings could be a crime.

The man in the OP liked a limerick. Don't conflate that with actual hate speech.

But even the police officer who called the man in question stated that it was not a crime or even close to being a crime. Yes, we have laws governing hate speech, this wasn’t it! They told him that even though no crime had been committed they had to investigate if someone claimed to have been offended. You can’t support that surely?

I can't see anything inaccurate or offensive about stating that homosexuality is a biological failure of the species. Might not be palatable to some people but it's not offensive unless you follow it up with a comment like 'and so they must die' or 'and therefore gay people are wicked perverts.'

That was to worridmum

worridmum stating that someone has had cosmetic surgery isn't a hate crime. I've never heard anything so ridiculous in my life.

He seems to have posted a lot of comments so probably wasn't based on liking 1 post or challenging his opinions. It is more likely to be for hate speech.

Worridmum The point here is that the police acknowledged no crime had been committed. So why did they get involved at all?

Sure, people will support the "policing" of thoughts that they disagree with until the police come for them when what is acceptable changes once more and previously held thoughts that have been considered normal are now considered "hate". I think it is a very slippery slope and it is rightly described as "Orwellian". Unless actually physical threats are aimed at someone or some group, no opinions should be criminalised.

To say that a man can not be a woman is not the same as any of the analogies above.