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To think the comments in the Daily Mail are frightening

137 replies

MotherOfDragons90 · 25/01/2019 08:27

I shouldn’t read it, I know, it is drivvel, but I downloaded the MailOnline app to read the Brexit stories as my friend said most of the comments were from Leavers and I quite wanted to know what Leavers think of how Brexit related things are going. Anyway, I digress.

There’s an article on today about new mothers and their maternity rights in the workplace.

The comments have shocked me to my core!

So many posts basically claiming women shouldn’t have any rights as they choose to have children, people saying they refuse to hire women of child bearing age etc.

If this is how Leavers feel, AIBU to be scared for our future as women?

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MrsGideon · 25/01/2019 09:16

If you think the Daily Mail is bad, you should try the Sun...

ColdFingered · 25/01/2019 09:17

I am convinced most of them are either paid trolls or straight from the chan boards
I think that as well.

22Giraffes · 25/01/2019 09:20

Take them with a pinch of salt, some are so bad that they're actually funny! I do enjoy a bit of red arrow-ing with my morning cuppa Grin

SilverySurfer · 25/01/2019 09:21

Poor you OP, someone forced you to download the app and made you read the comments. How cruel. Hmm I think this thread is more likely yet another place for remainers to whine and bash Leavers (like there aren't hundreds of threads doing the same thing already).

Itsagamerchanger · 25/01/2019 09:21

God yes the comments...what can I say. A massive lack of empathy for anyone who isn’t dead or dying. When someone dies all the “RIP fly like an angel” comments pour in. When someone is being made homeless and happens to be foreign all the “shouldn’t be over here in the first place” comments flood in. I feel like I’m in the twilight zone reading it!

WhentheDealGoesDown · 25/01/2019 09:21

I can't quite see the connection with leave voters either, obviously OP's friend seems to know that they are leave voters - how???

The mail comments are in my opinion no worse than a lot on here, probably the same people as most links here are for the mail.

Birdsgottafly · 25/01/2019 09:22

"They're a bunch of bitter old men upset that their dick doesn't work any more, don't give their sexist comments any value."

Unfortunately the comments include the same from other Women.

I don't know why you are also throwing ageism into the mix. Watch a MRA march, they are all younger Men.

There are people about who if the Nazi party came into being again, would vote for them.

FraggleRocking · 25/01/2019 09:22

I don’t really see how the comments section of any news site, be it Mail, Guardian, BBC, Buzzfeed etc is any different from someone posting their opinions on somewhere like here. You’re always going to get oddities, and extreme opinions that people probably wouldn’t voice in person, it’s the internet.

BMW6 · 25/01/2019 09:23

But OP surely you realise that among any population anywhere on the planet there will be some people with extreme views? Some of them really believe what tripe they write, others are on the wind-up.
Your reaction is rather OTT.

MotherOfDragons90 · 25/01/2019 09:23

I wasn’t forced but I was interested!

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GrouchoMrx · 25/01/2019 09:24

This idea that leavers=bad/always wrong and remainers=good/allways right is really lazy thinking.

DM Leavers may act like scumbags and write like scumbags, but don't let that fool you.

They really are scumbags.

Itsagamerchanger · 25/01/2019 09:24

Poor you OP, someone forced you to download the app and made you read the comments. How cruel. hmm I think this thread is more likely yet another place for remainers to whine and bash Leavers (like there aren't hundreds of threads doing the same thing already).

How did we get from DM comments to Brexit so quickly?! I actually think there is value in reading comments from all walks of life. It is important not to live in our own personal bubbles, convincing ourselves that other people have the same opinions. That means reading things that we may not find pleasant. It’s perfectly ok to choose to read things and reflect on what people think rather than choose not to read anything.

Adversecamber22 · 25/01/2019 09:24

Anonymous forums have always been thus. There have been some appalling comments written on MN over the years, they are few and far between fortunately. However deep down on many issues what people say as they want to be liked and what they actually think can be very different.

My now dead FIL was sexist, I struggled to get on with him at all. He was outspoken and I challenged him on more than one occasion. I suppose at least I knew where he stood. Whereas a colleague of mine who appeared incredibly liberal and seemed totally on board with the rights of women when drunk totally let slip what he was really like. He was no knuckle dragger, the man had obtained his PhD from Oxford and was in his late thirties so not even a well maybe it’s a generational thing which is a poor excuse really but easier to understand however indigestible. He was an avid Labour supporter we had both been involved with political campaigning in our twenties. The arena we worked in and the subject matter meant we had many political discussions over the couple of years I had already known him.

I had met his wife socially a few times she was nice enough but gave off a very strange vibe it’s too hard to explain but I guess she knew the real him. I look back and feel very sorry for her.

MotherOfDragons90 · 25/01/2019 09:24

@FraggleRocking it doesn’t seem to be one off oddities though it’s literally page after page!

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newnameforthis7 · 25/01/2019 09:25

🤣🤣🤣

CherryPavlova · 25/01/2019 09:27

Whilst accepting it was Daily Mail readers,I think there is cause for concern post Brexit about employment rights being slowly undermined. Particularly so if a Tory government remains for another term.
There is good evidence that some MPs do not support reasonable employment practice and this may well impact on maternity rights, disability rights and equality legislation.

newnameforthis7 · 25/01/2019 09:27

@BirdsGottaFly

Agree. Some of the most racist, bigoted people I know are in their 20's, and some of the nicest, kind, accepting people are over 45.

Assuming everyone who is over 45 is a thick racist bigot does the remainers no favours at all.

newnameforthis7 · 25/01/2019 09:28

And saying men over 45 who are 'upset their dick don't work anymore' is a vile thing to say.

clairestandish · 25/01/2019 09:28

I’m the same.

I read an article on there recently about men and women in the workplace and men more likely to get better roles etc

The highest rated comments in the comment bit were about how women are difficult to work with, can’t perform as well as men in the workplace by any stretch and don’t belong in high up roles.

Also comments about not hiring women because they take time off/don’t perform well and moan during periods every month or get pregnant then get paid the company’s money for a year, come back to work and take constant time off to be with sick children.

Just scares me there are people who think like this.

WinnieFosterTether · 25/01/2019 09:28

Were you just trying to sneak a Brexit, Leave-bashing thread into a more popular section of MN? In which case, good try but most of us have been here long enough to spot a disingenuous post.
Maybe try posting on the Guardian instead. They'll be happy to jump on board with your stereotypes.

The80sweregreat · 25/01/2019 09:28

The comments they print are not moderated, so anyone can write anything. I am sure a lot of people do think this way, but a lot is made up as well. It is shocking what some of them do write however. I guess this is the internet though, its fair game for people to do this sort of thing unchallenged. sad though.

BusySnipingOnCallOfDuty · 25/01/2019 09:30

We read nothing but the Independent. My mum picks up the Daily Mail and I loudly say it's not mine if she puts it through with my shopping, ugh. She's also repeatedly abs loudly been told my kids aren't to be exposed to it.

Which makes it sound like an X rated DVD 😂 but fuck that - my kids, my say. At their last school they had friends from abroad who were threatened with removal and it was very upsetting, my eldest particularly had an interest in why all of this is happening so I let her read 'i'. And we have chats and debates about it.

CurbsideProphet · 25/01/2019 09:31

As Dave Gorman says, the comments sections are the bottom half of the internet!

MissionItsPossible · 25/01/2019 09:33

@Itsagamerchanger
How did we get from DM comments to Brexit so quickly?!

Because the OP mentioned it in their ‘secret’ Brexit bashing thread

newnameforthis7 · 25/01/2019 09:34

@WinnieFosterTether

Were you just trying to sneak a Brexit, Leave-bashing thread into a more popular section of MN? In which case, good try but most of us have been here long enough to spot a disingenuous post.

Maybe try posting on the Guardian instead. They'll be happy to jump on board with your stereotypes.

THIS. ^