GP Surgery Poster

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AIBU to be impressed by this poster at my GP practice? The reference to organic food made me laugh.

Andro - you have a perfectly good reason not to vaccinate. As do those who have reduced immune systems etc.

But for the sake of your dd, and all the others who CAN'T the rest of us MUST.

Don't feel crap, because it is not aimed at you. That is liek feeling crap at the smoking poster when you don't smoke.

For people who cant read it, the poster says;

''Not vaccinating your kids leaves them vulnerable to disease their whole lives.
When your daughter gets rubella when pregnant, how are you going to explain you chose to leave her at risk?
What will you say when she calls you and tells you she has cervical cancer, because you decided she wouldn't need the HPV vaccine?
What do you tell your son when he breaks the news to you that he cannot have kids, thanks to the mumps that he got as a teenager?
And what do you say when he gives influenza to his grandma? How do you explain she won't be coming home from hospital? Not ever.
Do you tell them you didn't think these diseases were that serious?
That you thought that your organic, home cooked food was enough to protect them?

Do you say sorry?''

You can download a printable version here;
nrvs.info/posters-and-graphics/

as to changing minds.
I do thik there are dyed in the wool anti-vaxxers.
I also think there are a considerable number of middle grounders who would be surprised and taken aback at seeing these consequences in blak and white.
Hopefully some of them will change their minds

I can't vaccinate my child either as he may go into seizure, stop breathing and need to be ventalated/sedated again.

It does make you feel bad...my son has had the first lot tho just not the boosters. I'm so scared to give him the boosters

It shouldn't make you feel bad. It isn't aimed at you. Its aimed at people who are anti vaccine for ideological reasons, not medical ones.

Andro I really hope it would have at least some effect on those choosing not to vaccinate in order to protect children like yours who cannot vaccinate or don't have a protective immune response.

⬆️ THIS

Oh I love it.

Definitely a member of the public put that up. It is goady and there are better ways of getting the point across.

Yes Andro I think I agree, the poster makes me uneasy. Firstly I'm pissed off about the rubella bit - when I was young you had the rubella jab at about 12 y and it probably (in those days) covered you for most of your reproductive life. It was the NHS that changed it to a child having the MMR so young and therefore being more likely to be at risk of rubella when pregnant even if vaccinated.

And my DD will be fully involved in deciding whether to have the HPV vaccine when it is offered, if she decides to delay it until a bit later that's fine but we will research it and weigh up the risks together (she's had all the usual childhood vaccines, but I did research before making the decision). The organic food bit - what's that all about, is it designed to piss people off?

Andro - it clearly isn't aimed at people who CAN'T be vaccinated - it is aimed at the ones who think airy fairy food, oils or whatever is in fashion these days will protect their children x

However, that is way too political and potentially offensive to have been put up by staff, I would imagine.

How is it "political"? It's just science!

Sadly we live in a post-modern political era where belief in material reality is a political stance:

• Accepting human CO2 emissions cause climate change is still debated by some in the UK and downright controversial in the world's richest nation.
• Suggesting that only women have uteruses and that this (and other physical differences) might be important when formulating policy on contraception/healthcare/prisons/sport is bigotry to some.
• Sadly a much larger proportion of the public than we think believe vaccines are bad 'because chemicals...'.

This GP's surgery is fab. I wish the whole NHS did this.

Most people have their minds made up.

In order to have your mind made up wrongly, on something so easy to get right, people have to have been fed a lot of false info. A chat with a doctor who can put the evidence in simple terms and pull apart the drivel will work for many people. These doctors are just doing what they can and hoping some people will ask questions.

An anti vaccine campaigner actually encouraged me once to see a Homopathy to try and 'detoxin' my son from his vaccines. He was given some Homopath medicine but I decided not to carry on with the plan...the theory was that my disabled son has been 'vaccine damaged'

Well for the rubella & hpv vaccines, they could be done as an adult, so the argument doesn't necessarily follow.

I also thought that it was rare for mumps to cause infertility in men.

it designed to piss people off?

The entire thing is designed for that sole purpose. I don’t think they have any interest whatsoever in actually helping to solve this problem or help allay fears. My own mother was frightened for her grandchildren to have them because two of her kids, I’m one, had life threatening reactions to the same vaccine. She’s just a scared and confused Mum, not an ‘ideologist’. Should she be mocked and loathed by other parents, or reassured, respected and educated by someone with experience and knowledge? I chose to respect her, and both our fears, by engaging with a very sensible, kind and patient doctor who never once engaged in the kind of nonsense shown in this poster.

LOVE it!

Nothing on the poster suggests that it is NOT aimed at people who can't vaccinate or who are terrified to vaccinate due to previous experiences. Whoever designed it either hasn't considered that there are people who can't or doesn't give a toss about their feelings anyway. Those who say it is obvious must be looking at a different poster to me.

If you can't vaccinate why would you be offended by this poster? You'd have to be a bit thick to believe that this was aimed at people who can't vaccinate!

I don't mind the poster apart from the HPV vaccine comment. The author of this very important paper pointing out the bias of HPV review was removed from the Cochrane organisation he founded. Stinks to high heaven and therefore I would definitely resent being told the science was settled on that particular vaccine. ebm.bmj.com/content/23/5/165

I can't vaccinate my child...well I could but it would be very risky...and I'm not sure if I'm personally making the correct desision.

I'm not OFFENDED at the poster. It just highlights different points to me that I have made the decision not to vaccinate vs if I do vaccinate and IF my son has a serverve life threatening reaction again

I'd put up another next to it...

When you need to redecorate the play area because you used sellotape on the walls, how will you explain the bill to the partners?

• was blutack not good enough?

Will you say sorry?

But, the chemikillz!!

When I worked at a doctors I made a poster with some clip art of a vaccine battling the flu bug and just the dates of our flu vaccine walk in clinic - to make it a bit more eye catching and stop the 100s of people who would walk past the boring posters and ask us when the clinic was. I wasn't allowed to put it up so if it was put up by the practice, they were a lot more chilled than mine was!

When I said political I supposed I was thinking of the term contentious politics; it's potentially contentious and controversial.

I actually agree with oxytocindeficient I don't think it will make anti vaccers vaccinate but it will make people who can't vaccinate feel shit.

Anti vaccers have a bizarre logic that no amount of science and logic can reason with so a little poster certainly won't.

My upper primary aged son developed life threatening thrombocytopenia after his elective flu vaccine. He had a count of zero platelets and was bleeding from mouth and nose. A head bump could have been fatal. All my kids are fully vaccinated but I am very frightened of my son ever needing another vacc and what to do if he does.