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To think that loyalty in girls teenage friendships groups, is a thing of the past..

63 replies

Bluechair · 21/01/2019 10:30

So if a teen has broken up with a guy, is it ok for her 'friend' to start dating him a day later, if he asks her friend out? What is normal these days? It was an unspoken thing, when I was teen that you didnt go there..

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Itstimetoscream · 21/01/2019 10:35

Teenage girls are so fickle these days. I think it is wrong and I hope when my daughter becomes a teenager she wouldn't do anything to hurt a friend.

Titsywoo · 21/01/2019 10:38

My DD has had an awful time with friends at secondary and I agree they aren't as loyal as my friends were at school. Often leaving her out/ignoring her when they fancy it. Makes me sad that she didn't find a good tribe :(

Racecardriver · 21/01/2019 10:38

I think it really depends on the individuals font yoy?

Bluechair · 21/01/2019 10:38

But if it is the girl, who finished the relationship with the guy and he pursued and asked her friend out the very next day, is that a thing now? Growing up, we would never have gone near a friends ex especially in a matter of hours. I really have no idea how they do things these days!

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ThanosSavedMe · 21/01/2019 10:39

It isn’t a new thing. My friend did this to me 30 years ago. Twice.

Teenagers have always been fickle. Some are better than others but it’s not a new thing.

Bluechair · 21/01/2019 10:46

Im trying to understand why my teenage daughter is so hurt and upset that her friend immediately agreed to date her ex boyfriend, that she broke up with! She finished with him over text message as she didnt have feelings anymore, and then he asked her friend out,.The friend really likes him, my daughter doesnt. They arent best friends but socialise in the same circles.Does this reflect badly on her friend. I would have thought the guy was insensitive there?

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Dunin · 21/01/2019 10:48

Not a new thing. My best mate did this to me when we were 14 and that was 40 years ago!

Dunin · 21/01/2019 10:51

I think it’s a good idea to try and help your daughter with being resilient in this situation. She broke up with him so I’m guessing he’s trying to get to her by dating the friend? Is she sure they weren’t messing around behind her back? If she over reacts or does a dramalama then she risks losing her friendship group. Wise parenting needed here OP. Maybe take her away for a weekend to get her away from it and put things in perspective

nutellalove · 21/01/2019 10:51

Yeah my friend asked my ex to prom after we broke up a few weeks before. This was 10 years ago and I'm still kinda annoyed Hmm

gamerwidow · 21/01/2019 10:53

To my shame I did that to my friend 25 years ago. There is no such thing as universally accepted rules for teen girl behaviour. They’re individuals and some will be loyal and some not so much.

RagingWhoreBag · 21/01/2019 11:00

25-30 years ago my friend got me to stop seeing a guy because she liked him too. In fairness she’d noticed him first and we’d all become friends, but he came on to me. I stopped seeing him and then they started up straight away. They’re now married, so...! In the grand scheme of things it isn’t a big deal, especially as your DD wasn’t heartbroken or anything.

Bluechair · 21/01/2019 11:00

I was quite tough on her .I told her that if she was happy to dump him twice by text, having arranged to go to the cinema the next night, then she didnt have much respect for him in the first place so why be so upset that he has chosen to move on? Yes he moved on fast, yes it was with her 'friend'. however, this girl isnt really a good friend and to be honest, I am not keen on her at all as she always seems to be hovering around the friends relationships etc and tends to pounce and generaly stirring the pot.Maybe I should have been more sympathetic but I told her that this was a big lesson for her in how to treat guys and loyalty in friends. The girl broke up with him as soon as she sensed that my daughter was upset but my daughter then contacted her to say that she was fine with her friend going out with him but to be really kind to him as he was lovely but that my daughter didnt have feelings for him anymore. She is so sad.

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silkpyjamasallday · 21/01/2019 11:01

Happened frequently when I was a teenager a decade ago, our friendship groups were pretty incestuous and there wasn't really any loyalty.

Aventurine · 21/01/2019 11:04

There is no such thing as universally accepted rules for teen girl behaviour. They’re individuals and some will be loyal and some not so much
This. Like any other age group

Bluechair · 21/01/2019 11:07

jeez the landscape has really changed! we would not have dreamed to do that thirty years ago. In fact girls would say...I dont want her sloppy seconds!!!! It was like you would have to be desperate to do that. I told my daughter to keep her head held high, keep her mouth shut and when the nosy crowd started the questions, just to simpy say.. I broke up with Paul, I told Jen I was cool with her dating him so theres no issue, and smile! I have no idea about teenage dating dramas as she is my eldest and I have no relations her age or friends with children her age, so appreciate your advice.Anything else I could do?

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Pachyderm1 · 21/01/2019 11:16

I would stay out of it tbh. Offer her support if she’s sad, but no more involvement than that. Relationship drama has been a mainstay of teenagedom for god knows how long - they’ll all grow out of it.

whiteroseredrose · 21/01/2019 11:17

Interesting. DD (15) is in a mixed friendship group and they are currently mainly just friends. A lot of the boys fancy one of the girls (A) and she has dated 3 or 4 of them consecutively. Another one is her next prospective. Does that mean that none of the girls in the group can ever date the others because they are ALL exes of A?

In my day there was lots of chopping and changing as people dated and split up.

EBearhug · 21/01/2019 11:35

I think it depends a bit on the age. Back in the '80s, as 13-14yos, the group was fairly incestuous, and most of the girls went out with most of the boys at some point or another. But by 16, 17, things had shifted, and it would have been less acceptable, and did cause a bit of upset on the rarer occasions it happened. I think also by that time, there was a wider pool of available boys, as people were starting to go to pubs and so on, so it wasn't just the ones you knew from school and activities like swimming club.

glittershitter · 21/01/2019 11:48

Back in my 20s, there was a boy I really liked in our friendship group. I kept this to myself - didn't think he'd be interested, and my then best friend had started taking an interest. The two of them had a short-lived affair - she was always keener than he was, but it fizzled out amicably enough.
Several months later, I discovered that said boy liked me after all. We started seeing each other, although I felt a little apprehensive when it came to breaking the news to my friend.

To say I was unprepared for her reaction was an understatement. She - and her sisters, and her mother - waged a hate campaign against me that culminated in them all trying to break into my house one night. In retrospect, I should have got the police involved, but at the time I was just so bloody baffled by it all, they'd only been together for a matter of weeks...! And she had already started seeing someone else!

Yes, I get the notion of 'loyalty', but going out with somebody doesn't mark them as your property forever, especially when we're talking teen/twentysomething relationships, no marriage vows or kids to take into account. That's a ridiculous and frankly unhinged way to think and behave.

After a while, the boy and I split up. But not before I learned that my now former best friend had told him, many months previously, that I just wasn't interested in him Hmm. In retrospect, I was well shot of the nasty little bitch.

Apols for long post Wink

MoreCheeseDear · 21/01/2019 11:52

Happened 40 - 50 years ago several times in my friendship group. I thought it was the norm.

pippistrelle · 21/01/2019 11:57

jeez the landscape has really changed! we would not have dreamed to do that thirty years ago.

There are lots of people saying that this happened to them or they did this x number of years ago. No landscape change.

Sethis · 21/01/2019 12:02

If you think loyalty was a significant factor at school then you're either looking at it with rose tinted glasses, or you had a much better time of it than others.

Bluechair · 21/01/2019 12:02

I thought I was being really horrible by being tough on her.I know she is sad. I know its not cool to do this but dhe finished with him AND she is not one of her closest friends! Surely if anyone comes out bad looking out of this , it is him for chasing her friend and the friend for agreeing to date him. My daughter wanted to stay at home from school today as she was so embarrassed and humiliated by it all. Im just struggling to get into her mindset

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m0therofdragons · 21/01/2019 12:07

My "best" friend slept with my ex days after we split in 2001 (I was 19) and then tried to sleep with my next boyfriend while still with my ex. New boy friend has been husband for 14 years. He was a friend of ex boyfriend and brother of a good friend but a few months between so nobody should have been hurt. However, ex (who dumped me after a year and cheated twice in that year) said I was dating his friend to spite him, got engaged to prove a point and married him to continue to spite him. I seem to be very committed to making ex jealous Hmm

FlossieTeacakesFurCoat18 · 21/01/2019 12:08

I realise this may be an unpopular opinion but I think it's a little foolish to stick to a rule of friends NEVER being allowed to go out with their friends' exes... if two people like each other, should they avoid each other forever just because one of them once dated the other's friend? As for "sloppy seconds" - if people were snobby about this once they hit their twenties they'll never date anyone Grin