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Is it abusive if it’s said/portrayed as a joke?

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stopthehunts · 16/01/2019 19:28

Bit concerned about my relationship.

Partner of 6 years always makes jokes or says things in jest that I find hurtful and potentially abusive but whenever I confront him and say he’s in the wrong, he says ‘it’s just a joke’

Quite worried actually about certain things e.g

  • joking threats about telling a family secret when I do something wrong. E.g ‘you wouldn’t want me to let slip about xyz’ if I don’t do something he wants. He says this with a grin on his face and I laugh and say ‘you’d better not’ but it makes me so uneasy.

-He also says often that I don’t dress nicely enough for him when apparently ‘every other woman dresses nicely and femininely for their partners’. I dress nicely and always look presentable in blouses and black jeans but he complains that I don’t wear dresses and skirts often except for work. He even points out women in town dressed nicely and says ‘you’d never do that for me’

  • i also have a health condition which has stemmed from past surgery which has resulted in occasional pain during sex though most of the time i am fine. He has said a couple of times as a joke that I will ‘never find a man who will put up with it’ like he does. This worries me as I can’t help having had surgery!
  • I bumped into an old friend when we were at a restaurant a month or so ago. A male friend. Partner didn’t like this and said afterwards as a joke ‘I’d fucking kill you if we broke up and you found another man’

Am I being unreasonable to find this really uncomfortable? We’re unmarried but been living together a few years.

There are other examples that I could think of but those are the most regular comments I get.

Is this abusive or borderline abusive? When I say he’s being mean, he asks where my sense of humour disappeared to.
I don’t want to appear to be boring and i don’t know if this is normal? Is this just part of a normal relationship? Is it just his sense of humour?

OP posts:
Chinks123 · 16/01/2019 22:35

Oh and a different ex said the same thing about clothes. Always “why don’t you have your nails painted like her” “Why don’t you have your hair down it looks nicer, you never do it like that girls over there”

It felt different to the abuse of the other relationship, but it was and very controlling behaviour. Everything had to fit his ideal of perfect, and he was no oil painting!

Handprints2018 · 16/01/2019 22:37

People like that don't change. Instead they change those around them into victims who won't argue back and justify themselves but saying 'if i was so bad X wouldnt put up with me'.

Stopthehunts · 22/01/2019 17:11

Thanks everyone.
Sorry for leaving my response so long.
I’m just waiting it out now until I can go safely and getting my plans in order. Thankfully I have a lovely family and I’ll be staying at a friends house when the time comes.

Since I made this thread, some more very strange behaviour has been happening. Stuff that happened a lot before but now I feel like I’m no longer blind to it or making up excuses. It does frighten me a bit- it’s very odd behaviour and I don’t even know where it comes from! It frightens me a bit that I’ll be on the receiving end of the behaviour when I do leave but I know that that’s even more reason to get out.

OP posts:
Stopthehunts · 22/01/2019 17:13

I think he’s starting to guess that something isn’t quite right and he’s been cleaning the house and walking the dog every night as if to make it up to me.
He’s also been buying me nice clothes and flowers- I think he’s trying to make me feel guilty

OP posts:
AdaColeman · 22/01/2019 17:24

He's trying to pull you back in. don't be fooled!

Stopthehunts · 22/01/2019 17:54

To clarify some of this odd behaviour

  • he’ll get really wound up and tense over nothing and start punching things.
This could be over anything. For example, if someone takes a low offer on the chase, he’ll get up, start screaming at the tv and start punching anything he can find whether that be cushions, the sofa, the wall etc while screaming. His whole body tenses and his teeth grit and he just goes bonkers over nothing!!! I hate to say it, but it’s like he’s got a mental compulsion- I’ve never seen anyone behave so bizarrely
  • he also gets tense over anything I say.
For example, today he said ‘shall we get a painter in for the en suite’ and I said ‘sure’ and he said ‘yeah that’s what I thought you stupid bitch’. It’s not even out of anger because he wasn’t angry! It’s like he has Tourette’s and can’t help it.
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MyThirdEye · 22/01/2019 18:07

Oh my goodness, your last post is shocking! I'm really scared for you. He punches things because of something on a game show? Shock

How soon can you get out of there? This really isn't normal.

Suziepoozie · 22/01/2019 18:12

OP did that just happen??? (I was watching the chase and someone took the low offer)

Please start preparing to leave if you can - I would consider moving your animals out of his way before you do. You deserve a better life. He sounds awful. You’ve made the first step by realising this isn’t normal. You can do this.

Fightingfit2019 · 22/01/2019 18:13

The sooner you are out of there the better!

Stopthehunts · 22/01/2019 18:15

The other day even, his family visited our house and we were in the kitchen having a chat.
He turns to me with his hand in a fist, punches towards me (but doesn’t touch me) and says in front of his family ‘god I would just LOVE to beat you up’.
As always, he said this as a joke and nobody responded so he changed the subject acting like it was completely normal.

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RabbityMcRabbit · 22/01/2019 18:23

Omg OP get out asap and please make sure you take all your pets with you. Contact Behind Closed Doors and Women's Aid for practical advice. Good luck Flowers

costacoffeecup · 22/01/2019 18:49

He sounds like a psychopath.

stopthehunts · 22/01/2019 19:01

Sorry my posts are all over the place adding more and more details- so many things keep coming back to me from a while ago and I want to make sure I’ve got my whole story out there. It helps me validate my feelings and experiences by adding more to this thread when I remember it.

A couple of years ago, he used to chase me round the house with any weapon he could find. An axe, knife, lighters etc. He used to chase me through the house for fun with me shrieking. He’d follow me with his weapon of choice and though he never hurt me and he was just trying to frighten me, I’m so upset that this happened.
I used to hide under the bed whenever he left the room because I always knew he’d come back with something to scare me with just so he could have a laugh.
A couple of times I burst into tears and he’d put the weapon down and be apologetic and say he was only kidding and that it was just a bit of fun.

This was a couple of years ago now and it happened a few times back then but he hasn’t done it since.

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Suziepoozie · 22/01/2019 19:20

Oh love. Get out. I’m sorry if I missed it, do you have kids??

Please get help. It’s a slippery slope but chasing you with weapons for a laugh is one of the worst things I’ve heard

AdaColeman · 22/01/2019 19:29

Don't give him any clue that you are planning to leave him...that is when all his dangerous "games" will be played out to their conclusion.
You could be in real danger then, when he feels he is losing control of you.

Have you spoken to Women Aid? They will help you. Don't delay, get out as soon as you can. Keep safe.

You seem to be running two similar user names, make sure you log out of both so he can't track you here.

Badstyley · 22/01/2019 19:31

What a vile man OP. You need to get out as soon as you can, but make sure you can do it safely. When he’s desperate and scared because you’re leaving he might not be so restrained, in fact I would proceed on the assumption that he won’t be. Do you have someone who can help you get your animals and belongings out? Also be careful after you’ve left. the most dangerous time is when a woman leaves an abuser and the year after. I don’t want to frighten you but you need to be aware. He’s a threat to you now and will remain so, so you need to make sure you’re safe and have lots of support. Better to be safe than sorry.

Good luck OP. It’s not just the right decision, it’s the only decision, because you’re not safe around this man.

Oh, and be prepared for the emotional blackmail to reach Olympic levels. When I left my abusive ex he was all sorry and tears, and I’ll change I’ll change, and when that didn’t work he moved to suicide threats. If he does that just call the police and let them deal. Basically histrionics are headed your way, with knobs on. Just ignore them, block his number if you must. He’s dangerous and he’ll never change.

Best of luck.

Tumblefluff · 22/01/2019 22:39

Agree with others. Abusers are never more dangerous than when they feel like they're about to lose their victim.

Definitely talk to Women's Aid. They can help you plan your way out safely. Have you a friend or relative you can completely trust to not only confide in but to assist you when it's time to go?
And make sure if he has access to the device you're using that you wipe the history of this thread and your login information. Don't delete all your run of the mill browsing history though otherwise he may realise something is up.
You have to be as normal as possible until the minute you leave.

MitziK · 22/01/2019 22:52

What happens to the dog when it's out on a walk with him?

Designerenvy · 22/01/2019 23:08

He sounds unstable and dangerous. I'd say it won't be long before physical abuse is added to the verbal abuse. You say you have good support and somewhere to go.
Just go now . He's a ticking time bomb.
My father was very like him , very abusive , it's frightening but you need to find strength. You're worth so much more than this . Be strong and leave , while you still have strength , don't let him bring you down any more.
Best of luck Flowers

Eatmycheese · 22/01/2019 23:22

Several people have asked if you have children with this - quite frankly horrifying - person.
Have I missed your response? I hope you don't.
I am willing you to pack a bag and leave tonight.

You must leave. Thanks

WordInYourShellLike · 23/01/2019 09:04

Hope you're ok today OP. Flowers I was so shocked to read about your experiences. Really hoping you can extricate yourself quickly and safely from this incredibly damaging relationship.

Reaa · 23/01/2019 09:09

Something my amazing grandmother used to say "many a true word, said in jest"

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