To think that with someone else leading the Labour Party things might look very different

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Corbyn is a Brexiteer firstly - maybe for different reasons to the Rees-Mogg crew, but a Brexiteer none the less. He may pay lip service to the remain side of things at times, but it is forced.

Over and above this, his position has been and is unendingly wishy-washy. I get that he has a difficult job marrying the different views amongst Labour voters, but come on, stop prevaricating.

My vote for Labour Party leader goes to Keir Starmer or David

@MorningRichie Doesn’t it just ...
How depressing

I'd vote for Starmer.

Ed Balls could be a popular choice.

I really like Jeremy Corbyn except for this small matter of his personal position on Europe! He is a leaver and I am a remainer. That alone would make it impossible for me to vote for him in a GE.

Ed Balls isn't even an MP any more.

Another one who doesn't think JC is the man. Not least because of (a) Momentum (b) the changes Miliband made to the voting system which meant anyone could sign up to the Labour Party and vote for its leader. The things that made him a standard for some - no change in his position since he was elected 25 years ago to a secure constituency - and his record of voting against his own party which all signals to some commitment and idealism - doesn't make him a leader or a competent negotiator. The fact he was on the back foot about the antisemitism row - well, he's not a man to come out fighting unless it's to those already sold on his ideas.

I firmly believe that if Yvette Cooper had won in 2015 we wouldn't be going through any of this shit now

This.

JC lost any shred of credibility he had during the run up to the referendum when he made it blatantly clear that he wants to leave the EU even though the majority of party members (who he repeatedly promised he would be guided by) wanted to remain. I have been a member of the Labour Party my whole adult life but am so disillusioned by it all, I honestly don't know who I'd vote for if there was a GE tomorrow. I don't want JC as leader but I couldn't bring myself to vote Tory. What a mess.

Corbyn. He who asked for a vote of no confidence in the conservative govt. Him and his cronies think they can do a better job. Corbyn, Abbott and McDonnel! The mind boggles!

The wrong Milliband and then downhill from there

Corbyn is awful

One of the most depressing thing is that both main parties have dreadful leaders at present. They also are not offering a meaningful choice between them.
I am not a labour voter but they should be doing much better than they are and that has to be down to Corbyn.

I am no Corbyn fan but if he's a Brexiteer that's a plus point for me. I'd have more respect if he would just come out and openly support it though!

He isn't particularly in touch with traditional Labour voters, but I definitely don't want to see more oily types like Blair, Miliband, Brown etc.

I'd like to see Labour be more like "Old" Labour used to be before Blairism, but not "far left" or economically irresponsible. So rebooted but also massively updated.

Yes to fair working conditions and good public services, of course. But most of all, a return to the free-thinking, rebellious, anti-establishment, no-nonsense, down-to-earth outlook Labour used to have.

For now it's a No to Corbyn and his party of extremes, champagne socialism, "safe spaces", Momentum, whiny London-centricity and virtue signalling.

When it was all announced didn’t Corbyn say he was a remainer?

Such a ditherer no idea what he’d do

Hilary Ben for me too please.

Here are some lovely photos of JC "negotiating"

@MinisterforCheekyFuckery You say "I don't want JC as leader but I couldn't bring myself to vote Tory. What a mess."

Of course due to our electoral system, unless you live in a key marginal seat, changing your vote would make zero difference anyway.

Of course due to our electoral system, unless you live in a key marginal seat, changing your vote would make zero difference anyway.

Our MP is far-right, anti-everything (excepting hunting, which of course he is in favour of), deeply unpleasant man, and at every election since 1983, has hoovered up 50% of the votes cast. He’s untouchable, and my vote is frankly wasted.

Re the party leaders, it’s not just that Corbyn and May are so poor, you look at who might be jockeying for position to replace them, and they’re all so fucking uninspiring.

Dispiriting times.

@Merename hahahahahhaha Mumsnet is NOT Tory!!! Tories are constantly attacked on here.

We need electoral reform - immediately.

Can't believe people want David Milliband for Labour leader. He would just be offering the same sort of neo-liberal status quo as Blair and that led to the Iraq war, the banking crisis and now Brexit. He is a champagne socialist and the reason why Corbyn is far more popular than the naysayers expected is because he is genuinely left wing and doesn't pander to the bankers and the rich whilst pretending to be a man of the people. No more PPE graduates from Oxbridge. The country needs real change not Blair mark 2.

Dan Jarvis? And he’s ex sas - that must come in handy in parliament sometimes?

Under no circumstances Yvette Cooper.
Under her ministership, the DWP benefits assessment process and implementation became even more onerous and pernicious.

The chronically ill, disabled and vulnerable in our society are far far worse off, institutionally disadvantaged and socially excluded, not better or even the same as one might expect of a reasonably socialist government at that time.

I cannot imagine what YC can do to outweigh the deep distaste many people have for this woman.

Springtimeyet I agree.

No more PPE graduates from Oxbridge. The country needs real change not Blair mark 2.

Agreed.