To be surprised that some friends are buying extra food because of Brexit? part 2

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Here is a new thread

Link to old one: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3472089-To-be-surprised-that-some-friends-are-buying-extra-food-because-of-Brexit?pg=1

It's a bit selfish TBH.

Its the opposite of selfish because its mid january. What is selfish is someone who doesn't bother to buy in advance and then wanders into the shops on 28th March and buys extra at that point.

Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall /River Cottage -

Food we throw away each year;

www.rivercottage.net/news/top-five-most-wasted-foods-and-ways-to-save-them-from-the-bin

5.9 million glasses of milk poured down the sink every year.
1.3 million apples.
240 million slices of bread.
5.8 million potatoes.

Hopefully consumers won't be stockpiling food and milk they end up throwing away.

I think that's a very different point

I think it’s exactly the point. To draw a wordcloud in which people who prepare, come to be associated with ideas of wastefulness, hysteria, selfishness, lack of resilience, negativity and so forth. Doesn’t matter whether any of these things have truth behind them - the point is to form the neural connections.

@Clavinova Which is why people on here recommend only buying what you eat so it won't go to waste. Nobody is stocking up on fresh stuff unless it can be frozen or otherwise preserved (fuck off Daily Mail).

I throw tiny amounts away overall. I have a small fridge on purpose. It's the easiest place to lose things that then can't be saved.

It's very different from having freezer food and a store cupboard ime.

The store cupboard as a concept is for me why I've bothered posting here.

I grew up with having a backup in the cupboard as normal. But a lot of younger, more urban people have the experience of shops always being open and plenty of variety in them. My own young adult child will no doubt come home to be fed should there be a problem with their local shops!

I also know family who would rubbish the idea of buying extra for Brexit possibilities or even if there was bad weather forecast.
However they are in possession of a vast fridge freezer , a full chest freezer and enough tins and packets to run a small co-op!

They would also I believe soon rubbish the "bad planning" of younger people living less remotely if food supplies were a little rocky!

We throw practically nothing away.

Limited food scraps anyway since I freeze anything that can be eaten or used in something else.

Chickens eat anything else including egg shells.

Things they can't eat like potato peelings and onion ends go into the composter.

I think the only thing we throw is occasional chicken bones (after Ive made stock).

Haha, yes I have used an airy 'oh, I just think of it as having a well-stocked pantry, really' to certain family members.

That flummoxes them, because they do like to get on their high horse about the Young People and their avocado toast-eating, profligate ways. Whereas a well-stocked pantry sounds like sounds like something from the 1950s and Morally Worthy.

I like it, Three

Clavinova - I cant see anywhere that people have been recommended to stock up on fresh milk, apples, bread or potatoes?

So I’m not entirely sure why your post is relevant really. People are stocking up on packets, tins etc. All of which are long life products and products they will use anyway. And most people have said that they would donate any surplus to food banks.

I cant see anywhere that people have been recommended to stock up on fresh milk, apples, bread or potatoes?
This, people have mostly been suggesting long life stuff that can be used for a long time, however you can freeze all of that, potatoes and apples take a tiny bit of prep, but all easily doable if you have a lot and want to not waste it.

Did the brexit website for businesses and the public thay was suppose to be live yesterday actually launch?

@Clavinova just to let you know if you store potatoes in a dark airy place they keep for months, they might start growing roots at some point but can knock them off and still use them. I grow my potatoes too and keep them in a drawer till I'm ready to use same as with store bought

Don’t think so Rt. Or else they’ve hidden it so well we’ll never find it...

I'm toying with the idea of buying a chest freezer to stockpile meat and veg. My fridge freezer is full of stockpiled pizzas and breaded chicken.

Not necessarily because of Brexit but I will admit it is an influencing factor. Within the last 5 years the company I worked for went into liquidation leaving us short of food and money. DD had a breakdown and I had to leave my job. My boss then fucked about not giving me my P45 for a month leaving us short of food and money and then HMRC suddenly stopped paying me tax credits because of a paper work error leaving us short of food and money. I now stockpile food and money on the key meters as much as I am able to as I've learned the hard way as a single parent I am one minor error away from hunger.

My tin cupboard is full but is worth also stocking up on chicken, mince and veg? Can you freeze milk and cheese?

you can freeze milk and cheese and cream and butter and eggs (not in their shells)

@cloudtree you can also get uht milk so it doesn't take over your freezer space. just had a delivery with 20l uht milk with my order for my friend exp dates are 19th september so pretty long date

yes UHT milk an option too, plus powdered lasts even longer as does evaporated milk (which you can water down)

Where do we get powdered milk?

I got powdered milk delivered with my regular Waitrose delivery.

...And THERE’s the wankiest sentence I’ve ever written 😂

Dried milk? Sainsburys, Tescos, Adsa, Morrisons... I'm not a huge fan myself because it can go lumpy in hot drinks in which case, I'd rather have them black. I'd maybe buy a small packet and see how you get on with it, if you've not had it before.

After Hurricane Sandy our shops were closed for about a week. Once they all started opening up again they had pretty limited supplies, especially fresh produce. I had prepared really well but we lost a lot of fresh and frozen foods because of not having electricity for a week. People were really bad tempered because they were eating things they usually didn’t and having to drink instant coffee (electric coffeemakers didn’t work but you can boil water on a gas stove). I remember having a headache all week due to lack of coffee and everyone was constipated due to no fresh fruit or veg.

I have just been shopping and got extra tins of soup, beans etc. I also got extra plant milk, frozen vegetables, pasta, rice and ingredients to make my own pasta sauces and bread. I didn't raid the shop but do plan to keep tins, frozen and pantry stuff slightly over stocked for the next few months.

Marvel is a big brand powdered milk but most supermarkets will have own brand too. I remember it from the 70's when my mother used to put it into coffee as a low fat low calorie alternative to milk.