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Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To ask about your HV?

70 replies

hankib · 11/01/2019 17:32

I’ve been a children’s nurse for a few years now and have recently taken the plunge and applied to do my masters to become a heath visitor - something I’ve wanted to do for years now. I didn’t realise what a bad rep HV’s had until I got on MN and saw all the negative threads and comments etc. I’ve just started the course and would love to hear if anyone has any positive stories or tips they’d wished their HV had shared? I don’t want to read MN one day and find a thread slagging me off Grin

Sorry not AIBU but posting for traffic whilst bored on a long coach journey lol

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OhTheRoses · 11/01/2019 21:31

Gosh DS is 24 now. I still carry the scars.

HV turned up when he was 12 days old at 9am no appointment. No apology about potential inconvenience.

10 years younger than me and childless.

Sat and filled out her paperwork. Didn't say congrats or ask how I was. And I wasn't well and had had a terrible time with mw's missing mastitis.

Spoke to me as though I was a dimwit and instructed me to attend clinics and to breastfeed. I asked why I should attend a clinic and she couldn't give an answer.

Came back a week later and was asked about links with immunisation and allergies. Cd only tell me what the leaflet said but able to instruct. Wrote to the immunologist to request he contacted me about my baby's breathing problems. He had no breathing problems. Instructed me to breastfeed again and to attend clinic. Think she also told me my baby was average weight and length because he was on the 50th centile. Er no that's not what 50th centile means.

Instructed me again to go to clinic but couldn't tell me why and didn't comprehend that if it was something she needed me to do but I didn't want to do then I required an appointment if she required me to go.

I went once to a filthy health centre where a brat leaned over the car seat dripping snot. Baby was weighed by an hv with food stains down her frock who got arsy when I pointed out the scales weren't set properly but didn't seem to register that my baby was about to be charted at 7oz less than lsdt time. Properly set he had gained 17oz in 10/12 days.

All the while my nipples were bleeding, I had the second bout of mastitis. I honestly cannot describe the pain and now believe I had thrush of the inner breast tissues.

The NCT only provided feeding advice. I needed permission to stop feeding. I rang her and was told to sit by the fire in a blanket to air my nipples I said that was ridiculous and was told she wasn't an expert and to ring the nct. Expert enough to give instructions though.

I phoned her boss and asked the purpose of an hv. I was told it was to make sure mothers spoke to their children enough for them to develop speech. One might have hoped the boss hv had sufficient intellect to appreciate that didn't apply.

The attitude made me feel a failure completely and I carried on feeding until the breast abscess.

I then launched into pnd due to being a failure and unable to do something that was natural.

At the time the chair of the hv's association was quoted in the press. The role of the hv is to teach ignorant mothers the three C's: cooking, cleaning and communication". All I sensed was resentment that a family might be middle class and with wanted babies because the agenda was to disempower.

I made a formal complaint and got a formal unequivical apology. The trust also hired a lactation consultant to support hv's to support breastfeeding.

I never saw another hv. If I had a concern about the health or development of my children, in my opinion, I needed to consult an appropriately qualified paediatrician rather than a nurse who had elected to work 9-5 away from the hard yards of actual nursing.

No family is obliged to accept the services of hv's although there is an obligation to offer it.

IME it's a job creation scheme for nurses who don't like nursing.

Both my dc are Oxbridge educated as indeed is DH. Needing to monitor whether I talked to my baby enough for speech to develop.

Hope HV's aren't still having a laugh at the expense of new mothers. Would love if the cow who visited could read this and appreciate her enormous impact.

WorriedFTM1 · 11/01/2019 21:33

I see mine every few days at hime due to my son's low birth weight. She seems well meaning but she just doesn't listen to me. It's really infuriating. She'll ask me a question and then talk over the answer so I've started giving very clipped responses to just get it over with. Also, I've had a very hard battle with breast feeding but have been persevering. From day one she has been on at me to give him formula despite his Consultant saying it's not necessary. This has made the difficult times even harder and I've come really close to giving up. So... I guess what I'm trying to say is listen. So much autonomy is taken away from mothers in pregnancy and beyond, that it means a lot when someone simply listens.

WorriedFTM1 · 11/01/2019 21:35

Oh and she's never on time for appointments and doesn't let me know or apologise (often up to an hour late). This impacts on feeding etc and causes me anxiety.

Sarahandduck18 · 11/01/2019 21:35

I loved mine!

She got me a free nursery place, gave just the right amount of support.

Perfect

Nothisispatrick · 11/01/2019 21:35

Mine was fine. I felt she thought I was a lot younger than I am and was a bit patronising. I accidentally mentioned that DP had suffered some mental health problems when he was young and she kept going on about it, how I should do the paper test for PND with him and make sure he talks to someone Confused thankfully neither of us had PND. She was also pushy with breastfeeding, I was really struggling but whenever we were forced to do it with the HV or bf councellor DD would get so distressed it made the whole thing worse. In the end I just refused to take part in any breastfeeding sessions.

BejamNostalgia · 11/01/2019 21:40

Mine is lovely and really supportive.

Whatabloodymessthisis · 11/01/2019 21:41

People are just so desperate to say ‘I only saw my HV once in 10 years’ but they can be such a valuable asset to children.

Poloshot · 11/01/2019 21:55

Waste of time for us, but they have their benefits for some families.

Mammyloveswine · 11/01/2019 22:08

I love my health visitor, gorgeous down to earth and full of common sense! Wonderful woman!

tor8181 · 11/01/2019 22:13

never had one as i opted out at birth twice

kids are 8 and 14

so many dont know that that this is a opted in service and you dont have to have a hv

FireUnderpants · 11/01/2019 22:15

My HV with DD1 was nice. She gave me some brilliant practical tips.

With DD2 my HV was trying to find problems that just weren't there. At the initial home visit I was asked about family. My siblings live nearby, as do DHs and his parents. My parents live abroad. Somehow she kept bringing the conversation back to how I must not have any support with my mum in another country. I made the mistake of mentioning baby blues. I then got grilled about how depressed I was. I wasn't. She ticked the box for pnd, and I received several concerned phone calls.

DSs HV was perfect. She turned up on time for the first visit. Checked he had a cot!? Noticed he had thrush on his tounge (I thought it was milk) and organised a prescription for him. And left a contact number then left.

icebearforpresident · 11/01/2019 22:36

I’ve had 2 and a student HV.

The first was nice but always in a rush (occupational hazard I suppose). i didn’t need any support so that was fine and I got the impression she was always in a rush because she involved in a lot of heavy cases.

Second one is amazing. Literally award winning and was presented with her award by Prince Harry. Again, i’ve never needed extra support from her but she would do anything if I needed her to (she once arranged for local builders to make a downstairs sleeping area for a child who had spent months in hospital and was coming home with all kinds of equipment).

My youngest has just turned 3 so I don’t have much contact with the HV team now but the last few times have been with the student, who is lovely. I think she has recently qualified and now working in the area, would be delighted to see her if I had another baby.

IthinkIsawahairbrushbackthere · 11/01/2019 22:38

I had 3 over 16 years. The first HV I had for my oldest was really lovely but quite old fashioned - very quick to recommend formula when I would have appreciated more support with bf. When she left I have a lovely lady for the last year or so. With my second I was not keen on the HV. She was very brusque, not interested in the family, just the baby. And I was quite sensitive on my son's behalf - he wanted to sit on my lap and she told him to get down because I needed to hold the baby.

Then there was a reshuffle at the surgery and I had the same HV as I had had towards the end with my oldest and she was my HV for the last 3 children.

She was amazingly supportive when I had PND. She saw the GP prior to my appointment and she visited every week. I was so grateful for her support.

When it came to my youngest's 3 yr check, the last time I would see her professionally I wrote her a letter to say how much I appreciated her and gave took her a bottle of wine. When she came to call me through for my appointment her eyes were wet. She said she had been talking in the staff room and had felt quite overwhelmed that our journey together was over. So there were a lot of tears between us that morning!

It was always a professional relationship but I really appreciated her and her support and wisdom through the hardest part of parenthood and I will always be grateful for her.

underneaththeash · 11/01/2019 22:49

My advice would be the same as to any other health care professional (and the same advice I give to my trainees) if you're not sure - refer - DON'T GUESS.

Unusualusernames · 11/01/2019 23:20

Mine was HORRIBLE!!! 12 years later I’m still traumatised thinking of her. She shouted at me because I didn’t have a shower and said that my stitches would definitely get infected if I only had a bath (they didn’t). My baby lost a small amount of her birth weight because I couldn’t get her to latch on and she said “well normally by this stage we would have called in the paediatricians but I will give you a chance” and offered me no help or advice but left me a shuddering mess. I found out a few months later on describing her at a baby weighing clinic that she’s notorious in my area for being a cow. God only knows why she chose to do a job she clearly hates. Hopefully she’s retired now. Please please don’t be like her Confused

FridgeFullOfChocolate · 11/01/2019 23:24

I’m yet to see the point in health visitors? I saw my first child’s health visitor twice. First time I met her she came in and told us the initial visit was just to suss out if we needed ss involvement etc, as we lived in a big house in a nice area we ticked her box and job done. She then talked about herself at length, her life to date etc, as she was leaving she asked my husband who had been there the entire time his name walking out the door. We knew her career to date (she was 60 and lived a colourful life), her children’s names, her grandchildren’s names... I could go on.

Second visit after we’d had our daughter was pretty much the same she spoke about herself at length again, when she eventually asked me how I was and if I was feeling ok emotionally, instead of allowing me to answer she replied “well I can see you look absolutely fantastic” and ticked the box and wrote in the notes “mother is feeling emotianally very well” lol. I was actually struggling with mastitis and feeling like a bag of crap, I couldn’t be bothered to mention it, she was on a roll ticking her boxes.

We moved house and had another child, i’ve seen a different person each time, reviews involve me filling in tick box questionnaires, they then read the answers I have answered back to me Hmm. Half a day off work for that!!!

If I suspected something was wrong with my child, physically or developmentally I’d take them to the gps, I’d never ask a health visitor, I just wouldn’t trust their judgement or knowledge.

For my next child I’ll be refusing contact, I would have with my second but I didn’t realise you can refuse to see them.

You wanted tips, hmmm don’t talk about yourself at length, put the tick sheet down and listen.

twiglet · 11/01/2019 23:38

I've just met mine this week and she's lovely.
Having an antenatal visit helped massively she was open and explained first visit, explained and gave me a copy of the pathway. Also showed me the feeding assessment info and asked me about my choices in terms of feeding.

I was pretty nervous about it before meeting her but she quickly put my mind at ease. Mostly by coming across as non judgemental especially in terms of feeding (I'm planning on trying bf but make no secret that if I'm miserable and it's not working then I will switch).
She also gave me some useful Facebook and app areas for support and wasn't judgemental about my large (but daft as a brush) gentle giant dog.
My friends HV on the other hand had a go at her for the dog being in the same room as the baby on a playmat despite her being next to the baby and the dog in her bed not next to the playmat.......

She also gave me her telephone number and said she is happy and used to receiving pictures of nappies, skin, rashes etc if we want support.

ehohtinkywinky · 11/01/2019 23:44

I had lost hope by the time my HV came about 2 weeks post-baby. But she was hugely instrumental in eventually getting my help for PND and supporting me from that first meeting through to the end of treatment. I got her a little gift to say thank you but I don't think she understood what she did for our family.

peachgreen · 11/01/2019 23:58

My HV saved my life. When I met her I was trying to pretend everything was okay but in reality I was desperately ill with PND (though didn't know it), hated being a mum, felt nothing towards my baby except guilt, was convinced there was no way out. I did a good job of faking it but she didn't really buy it. When my husband went back to work I had a total breakdown, called her and asked her to come round. I wasn't sure if it was to help me or to look after the baby after I killed myself. Thankfully she recognised the urgency without me even saying anything and came round immediately so I didn't have time to go through with it. She took one look at me and immediately got a colleague to come round to look after my daughter then sat cuddling me for two hours while I sobbed and screamed. She called my husband and the crisis mental health team and stayed with me until a care plan was put in place. She advocated for me to be able to stay at home with my baby while I had home treatment and prevented me from being sectioned. She came round every day for months and, I later found out, called my psychiatrist every day for an update from them and to make sure they were still seeing me daily. She reassured me again and again that I was a great mum, that my daughter wasn't being impacted by my illness, that I could do it. It's thanks to her that I'm still here and that I now love my daughter beyond anything I've ever felt. She truly, truly saved my life, she went so far beyond the call of duty I can't even explain it. I'm crying even writing about it. I gave her a present and wrote her a card but nothing will EVER be enough to thank her for what she did for me and my family.

AlaskanOilBaron · 12/01/2019 07:38

I hear on MN that a lot of people don't like their HVs, but I always looked forward to mine coming. She was very charming and helpful, we always had a cup of tea together.

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