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AIBU?

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To be upset and angry over this?

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householdprobs · 09/01/2019 20:19

I moved into my council home in 2011 so around 8 years ago. When I moved in I asked the council if there was an asbestos in the house ( it's a 1935 house) and I was given a survey from sample homes of the same time in my area. I looked at the report in my email and then just forgot about it. Then today i was trying to email the housing and find the address in my email as I was searching that email with report came up, I forgot about it over the years but referred back to it today. He report said that the asbestos is present in some tiles and on a sink pad. I was aware in my kitchen floor when I moved in there was some tiles of some sort so I just put ceramic tiles over them but the tiles that were in when I moved in were not in Great condition they were cracking on the edges. But I just left it. Then I checked under the sink thinking surely they wouldn't have left the sink in from decades ago with an asbestos sink pad on!!! I was told when I moved in this was a new kitchen because the last owner let the previous one go to a mess. Low and behind o check and that sink pad is still there !!! Asbestos was banned from 1984 so this kitchen has been in this house since before 1984 and they couldn't even Been bothered to change the sink in all that time!! I'm so angry and upset. This kitchen is disgusting ! All they do is screw cupboards back on. And also the tiles are worrying me now as well. They knew about these asbestos products but didn't inform me UNTILL I enquired yet they are aware of them ! Imagine I started to rip up the tiles to put my own on and didn't know, it's a good job I just out mine in top. I'm worried now because after pulling up the grip between living room and kitchen I could see the tiles some parts handing off.

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gamerchick · 10/01/2019 17:31

Does anyone actually know what council flooring looks like? I'm wondering what the picture is you all have in your head.

User758172 · 10/01/2019 17:31

@gamerchick

Of course I do. Don’t know why you infer that from what I said.

lunar1 · 10/01/2019 17:43

You have made removing the asbestos tiles a much more complicated job than it should have been. Therefore you need to sort it out. Many people in every form of accommodation have to put up with things. When I bought my house I had to put up with revolting carpet for 8 years because I couldn't afford to change it.

householdprobs · 10/01/2019 17:43

@gamerchick thank you!!
Council housing tiles are awful!!
That's why people cover them up. They must think they are some luxurious flooring or something !

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gamerchick · 10/01/2019 17:44

Of course I do. Don’t know why you infer that from what I said

Paranoid little soul aren't you Grin

Well, would you be happy to have them as flooring with nothing on top?

householdprobs · 10/01/2019 17:44

Why aren't people in social housing allowed to have a nice home? Living with black asbestos tiles isn't having a nice home. If they were normal ones I could just rip them up and be done with it and put my own in but I can't just do that

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householdprobs · 10/01/2019 17:52

And usually councils rip up flirting from previous tenants, if there was a lovely clean carpet left in They wouldn't leave it for the new tenant they'd rip it out when it could be of use but they won't take our asbestos tiles! This is what I mean, he's all because of money

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householdprobs · 10/01/2019 17:52

Flooring not flirting

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gamerchick · 10/01/2019 18:03

To be realistic though OP those tiles are a part of the floor. Scraping them up, smoothing the floor down and putting new ones on probably won't happen. You're much better off buying a nice thick lino and covering the whole lot up.

User758172 · 10/01/2019 18:18

Paranoid little soul

Paranoid? Grin

Bottom line - OP screwed up. Made the mistake of putting tile over tile. OP should pay to have proper repairs done and new tiles if she so wishes.

Ellisandra · 10/01/2019 18:19

My current house - privately owned - had filthy beyond cleaning stair carpet.
I ripped it out.
Then lived with bare stairs and landing for... FIVE YEARS until I could afford to complete other dirty work and afford a carpet.

Plenty of people live with ugly stuff due to money Hmm

You fucked up tiling over the asbestos tile floor. (and yes, I know exactly the foooring you mean)

You were 22 and didn’t know much about DIY and didn’t google. And you were probably all enthusiastic about getting your own place.

If you said ‘AIBU to so annoyed that I was naïve and 22 and paying for it now” then I’d say “cheer up chick, easily done”.

But you’re not. You’re not accepting that the council did nothing wrong, and that the problem is of your own making.

And your double standards are astounding, that you now don’t want the council checking what you want to do next.

They could actually save you money with the site visit, by stopping you from doing something else that will cost you money later.

Again: stop blaming the council, and chill your beans with your complaints about having to pay until that’s actually the situation Hmm

ChiaraRimini · 10/01/2019 19:36

OP why don't you move out and let someone else have the house if it's that bad

householdprobs · 10/01/2019 19:54

@ChiaraRimini move where exactly? To the moon?

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User758172 · 10/01/2019 20:27

No asbestos to bother you there Wink

ChiaraRimini · 10/01/2019 20:49

OP if you can't think of any other options then the moon, maybe it's not the council who has the problem?

Ellisandra · 10/01/2019 21:01

Of course not the moon.

Just to a local private rental that has the same rent, a secure tenancy, a regular if infrequent upgrade programme, a more enforceable reaponsibility as a landlord to conduct repairs, zero mechanism for increasing your rent to reflect the shiny new bathroom / kitchen that they’ve installed at their cost... oh - and of course one that allows you to easily seek permission to decorate how you want.

Or... is that like asking for the moon? Grin

You pay your rent fair and square. You were entitled to the house. (though bloody hell - do you even realise how potentially life changing it is to get secure social housing at 22? It appears not)
You should not be expected to live in squalor just because it’s social housing. I wish to god we had more of it, I rue the intricuction of right to buy and am a big supporter of social housing. I viewed a private new build and was reassured (unprompted) by the salesperson that the mandatory social housing had been tucked away at the other end - I tore her off a strip, having grown up in a council house.

But honestly OP, you’re taking the piss. Secure tenancy at fair rent but lower than open market rents.

But you want them to pay to sort out your botched DIY, and object to being expected to make alterations safely... when nobody has even told you that you have to pay to do so Confused

You’re in an entitled little bubble.

WhenISnappedAndFarted · 10/01/2019 21:14

Exactly what @Ellisandra said, couldn't have put it better.

OP people don't want you to live in squalor however you are coming across very entitled.

householdprobs · 10/01/2019 21:23

@Ellisandra don't get me wrong I realise how lucky we are to have a social housing home, I'm VERY VERY grateful but I suffer really bad with anxiety and knowing there is asbestos in the house really affects me so I guess I just got a bit worried about it all. We are overcrowded in this house but guess what? I'm not complaining about because I know how scarce housing is, I'm making the best of what I have and I'm going to convert living room into my bedroom so my kids can have all the rooms upstairs. If I was so entitled don't you think I'd be running to the council office demanding a bigger house.. but have I done that? No!
All I want is a liveable house, I don't want Luxury, I don't want all the latest mod cons, just a house that's clean and safe.

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householdprobs · 10/01/2019 21:31

Honestly I think People of gotten me wrong. I've lived in a private rented house before and I know how much restrictive it is. So don't think I'm not grateful. I remember when I asked my private landlord to sort out a damp problem he said he can't afford it and then the week after he increased the rent by £100! So I've had my fair share of crappy landlords as well
When I left home at 17 (my mum didn't want me at home) I lived In a house converted to flats and there was about 5 flats and we all got odd bits of the house in each flat, it was so bad environmental health deemed it unfit, no fire exits, the whole 5 flats shared a gas supply so no one bothered to top up because one flat would use it i a few hours. It was horrid. There were mice and no hot water. We were lucky because we got the electric shower but others didn't. So I've had my fair share of bad luck with housing trust me I'm not entitled at all

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Poloshot · 10/01/2019 21:39

Buy a property then you can choose what you want done and when you want it done.

householdprobs · 10/01/2019 21:52

@Poloshot I would love to, I just can't get a mortgage at the moment

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Warsaw0912 · 10/01/2019 22:19

You come across so badly OP, I’m sure the council can see straight through you

Warsaw0912 · 10/01/2019 22:23

Also you’ve posted about this twice before not mentioning the asbestos ‘problem’, just the fact that you want a new kitchen on the cheap and won’t pay for a proper job. Guessing you ‘remembered’ about the asbestos report today and thought that might be how I get my own way.

So I think it’s more than clear what this is all about

householdprobs · 10/01/2019 22:29

@Warsaw0912 you got that so wrong. Accusing someone of what you think doesn't make what you think right

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User758172 · 10/01/2019 22:40

For someone who’s not entitled at all, you say a lot of entitled things.

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