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Aibu regarding so called “Nanny” dogs AKA staffies

104 replies

Ghanagirl · 07/01/2019 21:52

Just that really, I think Staffordshire bull terriers are similar and possibly interbred with pitbulls and very aggressive.
I visit families at home in the line of work in quite a rough area and have to ask clients to put dogs away as I’m terrified of being bitten as two of my colleagues have been attacked plus the local postie
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This above incident just confirms my opinion.

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ifoundthebread · 07/01/2019 22:56

Staffies were bred to please their owners. They were once a rich man's dog, because of their loyalty and their eagerness to please, to learn and protect. They look the part and can act the part, which the poor man found out. They took the staffy and taught it to fight, to make money, eager to please by always pushing the limits, to keep fighting and killing because that's what the owners wanted and that was the downfall of the breed - wanting to please man ragardless of what that was doing. Once the poor men had the breed the rich were no longer interested in it.

Cheerbear23 · 07/01/2019 22:56

werideatdawn is an Akita a dog which has a reputation for being agressive?
I was in a pub last week and someone came in and let theirs off the lead to wander around inside.

Gogreen · 07/01/2019 22:58

There’s nothing wrong with staffs or pitt bulls for that matter.....I really don’t understand how a rational person can not see this......it’s not the breed........it’s the individual dog! (And how the owners raised them!)

Have you never heard of a jack russel or a Labrador biting someone.....there not staffs or Pitt bulls......do why do they bite too then???

Judystilldreamsofhorses · 07/01/2019 22:58

Oh, this thread has made me think of that horrible news story at Christmas where the guy abandoned his staffie dog. The poor wee soul was just sitting in his bed at the roadside, good as gold, when some kind people found him and took him to a vet.

We have a cat, who is friends with the Staffie next door, terrified of the other side’s two tiny chiuawas. They are bitey.

PrtScn · 07/01/2019 22:58

I have a Staffie, she’s a softie, very loyal and trusting. She has been attacked three times by chuffing out of control labradors whilst she has been on a lead minding her own business. I dislike labradors now and always worry if I see any on our walks.

Missyagravation · 07/01/2019 23:02

Staffies are just dogs, I read a convincing debunking of the nanny dog myth. It continues to be passed down as received wisdom though, idiots will believe it.

AuntieStella · 07/01/2019 23:02

I hadn't quite appreciated how much exercise huskies needed, until I met two (gorgeous) ones at a running event the other day - still as fresh as daisies at the end of a 6mile run.

If they are becoming a more commonly owned breed, and their owners aren't every day runners or similar, I can see how they'd become frustrated in a very sort time.

MadisonAvenue · 07/01/2019 23:03

I've known, and still do, some lovely Staffies who I've adored. We see some on dog walks who are fine yet my dog has been attacked on a number of occasions and it's always been Staffies. The problem is, as has already been mentioned, they're seen as a status dog by owners who want them to be aggressive and the woods where I walk my dog partially border a very rough area where a Staffie is a must have pet.

We visited the local rescue centre, Birmingham Dogs Home, just before Christmas with some treats. We walked around and the majority of dogs in their care were Staffies. It's heartbreaking to see so many and I wonder what their lives were like prior to being rescued, poor things.

FedUpMum40 · 07/01/2019 23:06

My soppy staffie who lays on my daughter's bed most nights, and will sit outside the bathroom door untill she gets out the bath, has never hurt a anyone, but my dog knows who the boss is, regardless of her muscle power, the only thing I worry about is her having to be put down if anyone tries to hurt my daughter.
It's the so called owners who get their staffs jumping at targets in trees to rip it to bits on comand, my mum saw this and asked me what he was doing with the dog, he was reported, it really is the people who own dogs, and the way we raise them

Hidingtonothing · 07/01/2019 23:06

I've never met a staffy I didn't like, people on the other hand..........

StoppinBy · 07/01/2019 23:09

@Greendale I once read a story about a lady who left her newborn in it's bassinet/bouncer type thing in her front window while she popped out to the garden, she watched her Labrador come up to the baby, thought all was good then before she could get to the baby the dog killed it.

Almost any dog has the capability to severely harm or kill a baby/very young child.

PennyArcade · 07/01/2019 23:11

I've never met a staffy I didn't like, people on the other hand

I've met a staffy Ihate. The dogs a bloody lunatic...but so is his owner.

I know lots of lovely staffies. Their owners have trained them well.

Angiemum24 · 07/01/2019 23:12

I have found staffie to be the loveliest, loyal dogs out there. I was bitten on the face by a golden retriever. It’s how you raise them.

Hidingtonothing · 07/01/2019 23:18

This is mine, waiting for me to get out of the bath FedUp Smile

Aibu regarding so called “Nanny” dogs AKA staffies
RebelWitchFace · 07/01/2019 23:19

Chihuahuas can and have killed babies.
So have terriers.
Most dog attacks are by labradors.
I'm not a dog person necessarily but i know enough to realise that the breed is fairly irrelevant, how dangerous the dog is depends on how it's raised/trained and by whom.

yolofish · 07/01/2019 23:19

When I was about 12 I was attacked by a dalmatian, severe bites on one arm. Then the owner insisted it came out again and we 'made friends' - severe bites on the other arm. Tetanus shots, etc etc. The fucker then ate rat poison and died ... cant say I was sorry! No one ever says dalmatians are killers though, do they?

OTH, some of the loveliest dogs I have ever met have been staffies (and labs, esp labbydors). So deed not breed.

OP you are not at all unreasonable to ask for the dog(s) to be put away when you are visiting, but it's not the breed you should be worried about but the environment in which they have been raised.

Fstar · 07/01/2019 23:20

Staffies are fantastic dogs, its the idiots that bring them up incorrectly. My staffie was attacked twice by 2 jack russels who bit him tontge poibt he was bleeding everywhere and he didnt figgt back once, waited until we pulled them off. He is scared of the cats in the street and is the softest, most cuddly dog ive known.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/dog-breed-most-likely-to-attack-bite-you-revealed-a7166296.html

FrederickCreeding · 07/01/2019 23:21

Oh my goodness Hiding that's such a brilliant photo! Grin Love your dogs

PickAChew · 07/01/2019 23:22

YABU. People bring up all sorts of breeds of dogs, even shitzus, to be overfamiliar, and it can be annoying to the point of intimidating.

maimy88 · 07/01/2019 23:23

My staffy is a little love but doesn't realise he is a dog!! He is currently being little spooned by my husband with his head on a pillow snoring into my ear!!!

Like has been said so many times all dogs have the potential to cause harm. It's the owner and individual dog not the breed.

Hidingtonothing · 07/01/2019 23:30

Aw thank you Fred Smile They lie there a lot if anyone's upstairs (stairgate there as the cats would never get a peaceful snooze otherwise!) so I could take that pic most days Grin

Xenadog · 07/01/2019 23:32

I had two JRTs and they used to bully my family’s staffy! The JRTS would steal the staffy’s food, bed, toys and she just put up with it. She was a lovely dog and did not have an aggressive bone. She was excellent with children. In fact the neighbours kids used to come around and ask if they could take her for a walk!

My JRTs were also very good with children and people in general and it’s because all the dogs had been brought up properly from puppies and never ill treated or encouraged to be aggressive.

5SleepingLions · 07/01/2019 23:41

Yes I fell for the nanny dog bullshit.
You live and learn

JaniceBattersby · 07/01/2019 23:42

I’ve covered many dog attack court cases in my two decades as a journalist. I’d say at least half of them were Staffies. A quarter were banned breeds and the other quarter was everything else.

Honestly, I have nothing against Staffies and I wish it weren’t so but that’s genuinely been my experience and that of many of my colleagues.

Also, for those saying that ‘the media’ doesn’t report attacks by other types of dogs becasue it’s not as good a story, I can absolutely assure you we do. My newspaper covers all dog attacks that are in our local court. Every one of them. As so most other newspapers because of the massive interest in this type of story. And, brutally, we’d expect more hits on a story about, for example a Jack Russell or a chihuahua biting someone because it’s more unusual than another Staffie.

Ruffina · 07/01/2019 23:59

All this thread proves is that there are many attacks by dogs - because the Staff lovers tell us of all the other attacks by other breeds - and that fatalities and terrible injuries are the work of powerful dogs like Staffs.

Janice’s comment says it all really.

Roll on the £5,000 p.a. dog licence.