To be surprised that some friends are buying extra food because of Brexit?

[abacucat]

I suspect that specific foods may get be in short supply for a short period of time, but there will still be plenty of food in the shops. It is not going to be Armageddon. So this seemed an over reaction to me. Or am I going to be that person in the disaster movie who is laughing saying everyone is over reacting, who ends up dead when the disaster finally hits?

Government 'preparation' for up to 6000 lorry queuing for Dover is to run a 'trial' this morning, involving 150 lorries. Except only 89 showed up. And the convoy was 10 mins late starting, which in terms of JIT logistics is a disaster. And it wasn't during the height of rush hour.

So excuse me, if I doubt the organisational capability of this government. Especially when it's Chris 'this train has been cancelled' Grayling in charge of logistics.

And I like pizza.

No NDAs or state sponsored reassurance from my consultants 😂 I have known them for years and they are genuinely perplexed by the panic. We had a long chat about it and their biggest fear is the stress that the rumors is putting on their patients. We are not a Third World country and we have a huge amount of production of drugs already in this country. Our drugs are biologics (cutting edge drugs) and have a shelf life (in a fridge) of about 6 months. If I wasn't 100% sure that my daughter would easily still be able to get access to these drugs I would not still be here.

It is total paronoia to think our doctors are being forced to lie to us that they are going to let children die.

No NDAs or state sponsored reassurance from my consultants 😂 I have known them for years and they are genuinely perplexed by the panic.

Odd that, because DH's BF runs a large NHS trust and is very worried indeed.

I'm totally on board with stockpiling, freezing, growing your own, etc and a bit bemused that some people think it's silly and pointless. But then, the hallmark of the entire Brexit catastrophe is ignorance and denial, I suppose.

As for sanpro, it might be an idea to consider reusables. Loads of patterns online and ideas for using old T-shirts towels and fleeces if you don't want to waste money on specific fabric.

But this is where I draw my own personal line...

Anyway, we did nearly run out of food during the war. What do you think the whole Dig for Victory campaign was about? Anyone with a garden put the spade in, maybe got a pig. My relatives were eating pigeons.

@MattFreisCheekyDimples , again, whatever works for you. If reusables is a step too far, don't go there.

Panic buying is going to send food prices through the roof.

@bengalcat - sorry for the @ing but thought you'd want to know you can now buy frozen avocados (I can get them from Tesco).

They are skinned and stones removed.

Not quite as good as fresh in salads etc (but still acceptable) but brilliant for making guacamole or in sandwiches.

@Magenta46 , so don't panic buy. Buy extras sensibly.

I agree Matt If it comes to that you can all laugh at me for being foolishly underprepared.

DeRiguer - frozen avos thankyou

I will probably need to stockpile metformin for a few months shortly— am sure if they start rationing it, PCOS sufferers wouldn’t be a priority.

As for doctors being perplexed about patient worries, all the primary care HCPs I know are perplexed by how oblivious people seem to be to the looming chaos. A family member of mine works with diabetes patients and has had not one enquiry about insulin supplies after March. Far from unbridled panic because of the insidious rumour-mongering of wicked MNers, I think it's more that we may be the only people in the country who are awake. Until March 30, that is, when all hell breaks loose.

Qn is OP has the fact that the vast majority of posters on this thread are also storing some bits (or planning to) changed your mind at all?

@abacucat , don't knock it till you've tried it. Actually, knock it as much as you like you are free to do so but there are some really cool ones available on Etsy that are not from recycled fabrics- dick shaped sweary ones, cat shaped sloth print fabric ones etc etc.

I hadn't even thought about buying extra food just in case! I think I’m maybe a bit naive to the effects of no deal. Having said that the cupboards are still full from all the food I bought for Christmas and didn’t eat, so i don’t actually have room for more food (and unfortunately the stuff clogging the cupboards isn’t very useful (bread sauce/stuffing/chocolate spread/pickled onions/bread sticks/chutneys).

No it hasn't cloudtree. I do think some medicines and some kinds of food may be in short supply. But none of us are fussy about food, and I cook from scratch every day, so there will be things I can make from what is available. Might get a few extra bottles of wine in though just in case.

I hadn't been, hadn't really occurred to me.
But I might gradually stock up on non perishables since reading this thread!

What should I buy ??

Might get a few extra bottles of wine in though just in case.

You should read "The Mandibles" Novel about financial collapse in the US and resulting food shortages. You might identify with a couple of the characters..

@SuziQ10 what do you like to eat? Pop over to the Preppers topic for some non panicky budget friendly ideas.

@SuziQ10 there are various threads with lists if you visit the preppers topic

I'm thinking rice, dried pulses, tinned tomatoes and spices. We can live on veggie chili if we have to.

Apparently we are going to experience a food shortage while our farmers simultaneously go out of business.

Crops magically walk to the shops all by themselves don't they?

One of the features of some of the biggest famines in history there have been is not due to a shortage of what food there was. It was stuff like the government taking their 'tax' or because the goods have rotted where they are having never reached their destination for whatever reason. Or because whilst there has been the land and labour available, there hasn't been the skills to grow crops efficiently.

For example during the Irish Potato Famine, there was enough food produced to feed double its population. Also see the famine in 1832 - 33 in the Soviet Union.

It's politics rather food supply. And Brexit also contains issues over quantity of food.

As a nation many of the population lack the skills to be able to cook anything to survive. It's stuff like we export offal to Spain because we don't eat it as a nation and don't know how to prepare it even if we had to.

There's been horror at how few vegetables some children can even identify because of how we are so out of touch some parts of the community are with cooking from scratch.

In reality, people who think to stock up on things like tinned tomatoes have a greater knowledge and thus greater ability to cook.

I hope, sincerely that those who think others are simply 'hysterical' are the ones who are right because if the converse is true it could well result in civil unrest.

My winter raspberry looks like it’s going to fruit again soon. I’ve still got carrots, Brussels and cabbage in the ground. I have an abundance of rhubarb plants too.

My parents fun three freezers for just two of them and have land they grow on as well so they have loads of frozen own grown and pickled. I think it’s helps being a camper and Allotmentier when it comes to things like stockpiles and planning. It’s only my second year on the growing my own though so still getting used to that one. I’ve just sorted all my seeds out ready though.

I would love to hear from even ONE doctor or consultant then who has been asked to sign a Non Disclosure Agreement about Brexit OR been approached by the government and told to ignore their Hippocratic oath and lie to their patients? It would be very serious matter if this has been going on, If it hasn't and people are spreading dangerous rumors for the fun of a good conspiricy theory then it is quite frankly disgusting and distressing for those of us with seriously I'll children.