To be surprised that some friends are buying extra food because of Brexit?

[abacucat]

I suspect that specific foods may get be in short supply for a short period of time, but there will still be plenty of food in the shops. It is not going to be Armageddon. So this seemed an over reaction to me. Or am I going to be that person in the disaster movie who is laughing saying everyone is over reacting, who ends up dead when the disaster finally hits?

Just been moaning with friends that it's shocking in this day and age thatvwe even have to consider this. Fuming with David Cameron and his ilk right now.

And with the electorate.

This time last year I would have scoffed at your friends but I've already seen a rise in food costs and shortages of certain things at my local Aldi: I couldn't get squash for weeks at one point so there will definitely be issues if we get a no deal BREXIT.

Maybe it will hit Aldi harder as their stock is already limited?

Not sure what's happening in larger supermarkets so go with your gut.

those with cows dairy and soya allergies, any ideas what to do about milk and butter? Normally it's quite short date

I bought Oatly yesterday ( the long life one). It is in date until December 2019.

To be honest Aldi this week was selling a bag of Brussels for 60p where as Sainsbury was 42p last week. Aldi isn’t always cheaper. This week I noticed a few other products that were more expensive- but there is still plenty of products which are cheaper, you need to pick and choose

"1993 there was 2,750 trucks in and out of Dover, today there's 12,000.^
We had 2,000 customs clearance staff in 1993, today we have 200."

"Ramsgate has no customs. So all the trucks would have to go to the same two places - Dover or Folkestone.

Thank you for all this, especially Bellinisurge and RedToothBrush and BrexitDestruction. Some really helpful stuff. I feel lucky that we can just about afford to do an ‘extra’ shop to stock up - tins etc - things we would anyway use. Will also donate to food bank tomorrow. But feeling anxious and resentful of time it’s taking also having to sort of hide it even in house. Think it might cause an argument.

It's the feeling that wevgave to hide it ...nit just becsuse ofvridicule but for fear that others that might take it during a food shortage that is horrendous.
Very sad to live in such distrustful times.

@MissConductUS
Where do you get your camping ready meals from? Any good ones/ones to avoid?

@WellBHoise I ordered the camping meals from Amazon (the US site)

Mountain House Classic Assortment

Mountain House Breakfast Assortment

I picked them because they had such good reviews on Amazon and the price seemed reasonable. I tried the Beef Stroganoff and the scrambled eggs with ham and peppers. They weren't restaurant quality but quite tasty, good portions and with good quality ingredients. They would certainly be a step up from a tin of beans.

Mountain House is the only brand I've tried but I think they're a solid bet.

I've just had a look and the Amazon UK site has them too, also with quite good reviews. The packaging is a bit different but it looks like the same meals.

Mountain House Products

They guarantee the taste for 30 years, so I thought it was a wise investment. We get some really bad winters and the occasional hurricane where I live in the states.

I hope this helps.

Mountain House are bit pricey in my view. But they all are - there's also Wayfarer food on Amazon. I have one per person in what's called my Bug out bag or Go bag but that's a general prepper thing and I don't anticipate needing them for Brexit. I have other shelf stable stuff and anticipate what Preppers call "bugging in" which is a jargony way of saying "staying at home if there's difficulties outside ".

So, beginning to wonder if it's reading comprehension issues, wilful ignorance, complete delusion or something else...
People have been groomed. Pre-referendum we had 'project fear' as a response to any concerns. Now we have 'we'll just trade on WTO terms/EU needs to sell us their fruit and veg/we'll grow our own...' with Peter Lilley and Patrick Minford being quoted in an attempt to quell any negativity.
In short, no critical thinking, just the wholesale following of slogans they've read in the MSM/social media/heard from their mates.

Why, thank you for your kind words @BrexitDestruction

Possibly a stupid question but, am I right in thinking that a lot of the stuff that originates from outside the EU gets imported through the Eu and so gets checked when it hits the EU border, not when it gets to the U.K. So it’s not as simple as relying of the stuff we import from elsewhere because we’d still need extra capacity for those checks which we don’t have.

Absolutely right @RafaIsTheKingOfClay .

Interesting article in the spectator (Sorry, cant link) on Brexit and ‘project fear’. It tries to give a balanced view and states quite succinctly why a bit of prepping is not a bad idea (doesn’t actually ref prepping of course):

“After Brexit, might [goods imported through the EU] arrive as quickly as it does now? To say ‘There is no reason why it shouldn’t’ is not the same as saying ‘It will’. No one can be sure.”

“After Brexit, might [goods imported through the EU] arrive as quickly as it does now? To say ‘There is no reason why it shouldn’t’ is not the same as saying ‘It will’. No one can be sure.”

There's another, less charitable interpretation of that statement, along these lines:

"We know perfectly well that a chaotic Brexit would cause issues in supply chains, but we can't tell you this, because you will stop buying our magazine. However, we are just marking the spot so that when it all goes to shit, we can refuse to take any blame, and point out that we did warn you that we weren't sure."

But at least get aren’t doing the full on “rainbows! Unicorns! Horn of plenty!” dance.

Overall the article is fairly dispassionate - though has carefully crafted an intro that, I will grant you, would mean an ardent Brexiteer May actually keep reading.

Tbh, anyone saying "we can't be sure" about whether a chaotic Brexit would affect supply chains is lying. False balance isn't very helpful at this point.

Well said @Mistigri

What we can't be sure about is whether the WA gets agreed or not.

If there is a WA then supply chains will continue as normal on 30/3, but a new cliff edge will be created on 31/12/2020, we can have this same conversation all over again in two years' time.

I get that @Mistigri but hopefully we'll be a bit better prepared as a nation.

Why do some people seem so desperate for No Deal? The UK is sitting on the doorstep of a ginormous market, but they want to turn their backs on that and trade (with no trade deals) with any country anywhere else in the world, no matter how far away.

No accounting for gullible and flouncy.