To be surprised that some friends are buying extra food because of Brexit?

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I suspect that specific foods may get be in short supply for a short period of time, but there will still be plenty of food in the shops. It is not going to be Armageddon. So this seemed an over reaction to me. Or am I going to be that person in the disaster movie who is laughing saying everyone is over reacting, who ends up dead when the disaster finally hits?

Yes you Can!!! Tesco sell them frozen 😃😃😃😂😂😂

@bengalat Yes you can!! Tesco sell frozen avocados 😃😃😃😂😂😂

I am not in the U.K. but if I was I would definitely be stocking up

The first thing Itough when people start talking about problems with food getting is was: - who tough peak hunger gap is a good date for brexit? End of march here in the Uk there is basically nothing yielding. All winter crops are done, all spring crops are too young. If you are counting on your local supplies, I suggest you stock some tins and dry staples....

Everyone with room to store it who isn’t living hand to mouth should have at least a week of food in at all times. Three days at minimum. That’s just sensible.

And you also shouldn’t tell people IRL what you have (or where it is). Because when SHTF those ‘friends’ will now be wanting your supplies. It’s kinda the first rule in preppier 101.

I’ve just done a shop in Tesco and thought the same. Lots of completely empty shelves

The same thing happened in January last year - seasonal switchover and staff holidays.

The mystery of Britain's EMPTY supermarkets - Daily Mail

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-5231273/Customers-baffled-supermarkets-WITHOUT-food.html

Do people really drink UHT milk? Most revolting stuff I've ever tasted.

Hate UHT myself @Clavinova - plenty of reasonably priced Nut milk options for people to consider.

UHT is ok if you get skimmed. It’s the fat content that ends up tasting weird.

Skimmed milk is pretty rubbish too, but if you at ok with it the UHT version isn’t markedly different.

If you pitched up at my farm offering to pick some vegetables in exchange for some meat or milk we would try and be kind but we would definitely laugh and then we would probably to tell you to go and try your luck at the Co-op in the next village

yeah pretty much the same, my doorstep is not a shop or a trading post!
And no thank you to office workers pitching up after work either, I have enough to do without being a teacher to people in the evenings and it's just not practical.

I don't buy uht milk. I store a bit of milk frozen in plastic cartons. Powdered milk is ok in a coffee for me. I do have long life custard though and rice pudding so the kids can have milky puddings if they wish.

It will be the panic me me me buyers causing the shortfall as they buy up everything they can and leave little for the rest.perhaps the government will see what they are doing and try to limit the amount the rich and the selfish are hoarding for themselves.how they will do that I don't know,short of ration books again.
Before your cupboards,garages,sheds,are stock piled with food,think of those who cannot afford to buy more than enough to feed their family that week.a few extras is one thing.hoarding loads is just plain selfishness and greed.

barbara that's my plan too, I think that shortages would be the prompt our family needs to use things up!

plenty of reasonably priced Nut milk options for people to consider

I haven't tried nut milk - one of the finalists on The Apprentice was producing it - everyone seemed to like the taste.

Re Iceland growing berries, I was in Reykjavik and a punnet of strawberries cost about £10!

I've been getting the odd extra tin and packet recently but I'm going to step it up this month. I went to a supermarket on NYE and it had no fruit, veg or bread products at all - literally none. It was because they were closed on NYD so it was a planned non-delivery. It really brought home to me the JIT system. I needed bread and bananas so went to another supermarket, also none. Local shop did have some, but it's more expensive there. So it took visits to 3 different shops to get what I wanted, at a higher price than I wanted to pay. I haven't got the time or money to do that!

If it's going to be Armageddon and we are all going to starve, perhaps we will get food parcels from the UN . The EU and USA can send us foreign aid. There can be adverts in other countries saying please donate $2 because poor Kevin in the UK can't get any water or medicine anymore

Screwy. Fellow farmer here. You speak a lot of truth!

"think of those who cannot afford to buy more than enough to feed their family that week.a few extras is one thing.hoarding loads is just plain selfishness and greed."

I do. That's why I voted for the stable position of Remain to fight for changes. But I put feeding my family first. No other fucker seems to care about them so I do.

Fruit picking robots to compete for farm jobs!

www.technologyreview.com/s/604303/apple-picking-robot-prepares-to-compete-for-farm-jobs/
www.tampabay.com/features/consumer/These-giant-robots-can-pick-strawberries-What-does-that-mean-for-humans-_161998761
www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2017-05-30/apple-picking-robot-could-solve-labour-shortage-issues/8573036

panic me me me buyers causing the shortfall

Is buying extra stuff in January as a precaution for an event in March some hitherto unknown definition of "panic"?

short of ration books again

Well they better get on with ordering them then!!!

The Tory Party could not print their election leaflets for when they wanted them because May had announced the date of the election before they had election prep in place. They found that because they were doing centralised print in bulk that no printers in the UK had enough paper in stock to cover the size of the order. They had to wait for it to be delivered from the EU first!!!! Someone wasn't too shit hot on the logistics of that one.

If they are thinking about doing a credit card version of a ration card, then good luck getting that programmed, produced and distributed in 12 weeks. You have to have a list of all the people eligible for a ration card. This isn't just those of the electoral role, or tax payers, or school age children. There are plenty of people who would fall through the gaps. Getting a satisfactory list of people in itself would require action. During WW2, this was done by having a mini census - the 1939 register - to establish who needed ration cards. Even setting this up in 12 weeks would be logistically difficult because we don't have the same number of beaucrats on the government pay roll as we did in 1939 (since nothing was computerised we had an army of people who did all the paper work, established and ready to go).

Also I'd love to know how you ration food in the modern era when processed food is the norm - unlike during WWII.

Or how you stop the black market, when your police and army are being used on the streets to stop potential civil unrest or trouble in NI as the government have earmarked in prepations.

Also how does this affect restaurants? Would you just let them all go out of business? Restaurants were initially exempt from rationing in WW2. And restrictions were only limited later on meaning if you were rich you could eat more.

Yeah. Setting up ration in 12 weeks in 2019 would be a piece of cake. And just like WW2.

I love the WW2 comparison. It's so dumb it's hilarious.

Nut milk is made from largely non-UK ingredients.

If it's going to be Armageddon and we are all going to starve, perhaps we will get food parcels from the UN . The EU and USA can send us foreign aid. There can be adverts in other countries saying please donate $2 because poor Kevin in the UK can't get any water or medicine anymore

You still have to distribute the food. I don't think the UN would stock Tescos to the degree that would stop unrest.

Which means you'd need rationing...

... Oh yeah about that.

I’m with Bellini ^^

I vote remain because I rather like prosperity and had no desire to live in “Interesting times” (unlike some Preppers). But we got leave, and the government then proved it is incapable of approaching anything sensibly. So we’re stocking up, because in the end, those who plan for the eventualities are the ones who tend to survive them intact.

And frankly, the people who can’t afford to stock up would be fighting over the last remaining loaf on the shelf anyway. I’m just removing myself from some of those fights, so actually making it more likely those people will be able to find at least something. Not all of the attempts to get the last loaf of course - logically you’d still need to be seen occasionally trying to get hold of things/complaining about the lack, else someone might look a bit too closely at why you aren’t...

Happily I’m not expecting total societal breakdown. I think the government is too cowardly to let it get that far - they’ll sign whatever is put in front of them after a week or two of disruption. Whether it’s an EU or US deal we end up with, I don’t know.

And frankly, the people who can’t afford to stock up would be fighting over the last remaining loaf on the shelf anyway

I enjoyed the viral videos on social media of people on Christmas Eve. It was revealing. No Christmas Spirit so I don't really much believe in a Blitz Spirit Revival.

Oh shit WW2 analogy again. It's the gift that keeps giving.